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Confused on the rules

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twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 15:34

Hi

My husband fell ill 23rd December and received a positive results on the 25th

I fell ill on the 25th and received a positive result this morning

I saw my parents and sister on Christmas morning before I fell ill, it literally hit me within an hour before anyone asks and we were in the correct bubble and at that point my husbands only symptom was a headache and a bit of fatigue.

Parents and sisters results are negative, question is how long do they have to isolate for?

Also we have a2 year who has tested negative but attends a child minders. How long does she have to isolate for? Is it from when my husband fell ill or from when she received her negative test (this morning )

Childminder says it's 14 days from test then she has to be re tested but I'm unsure if that's her protocol or government

Thanks

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Kolo · 27/12/2020 16:48

Has your daughter got symptoms? Why was she tested?
I'm pretty familiar with childcare guidelines (that my area of business) and the guidance specifically states we shouldn't demand a negative test result before welcoming a child back to setting.

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twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 16:48

@Lougle

To be fair, if you'd said that information in the OP about his weekly test and said "childcare bubble" instead of "support bubble", you wouldn't have had those replies. People can only respond to the information that's posted.

I'm glad you're clearer about the isolation periods. Perhaps you could show your childminder the guidelines which state 10 days and she might be reassured?

We've always just called it a support bubble didn't know there was a difference I thought they were all called support bubbles

Apologies

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twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 16:50

@InescapableDeath

I hope your mum is okay, OP.

For the sake of caution, I would keep your DD away from your parents for 10 days/2 weeks in case she is yet to get it from you. Then it's also understandable why your childminder is cautious - overly so technically. But she is wary of the virus. Surely there's a chance your husband got it from work, so your DD is yet to incubate it?

Oh she's not going anywhere near my parents for a while
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twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 16:51

@Kolo

Has your daughter got symptoms? Why was she tested? I'm pretty familiar with childcare guidelines (that my area of business) and the guidance specifically states we shouldn't demand a negative test result before welcoming a child back to setting.
Daughter was tested as the hospital my husband works at has reported the new stronger strain and my daughter has epilepsy
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Kolo · 27/12/2020 16:53

From what you've written, your child is a close contact of her dad (+ve from 23rd?) so began 10 days isolation then, followed unfortunately by close contact with you (from 25th?), so she should begin a second period of isolation of 10 full days from your symptoms/positive test. After that she should be free to go back to her setting, unless she develops symptoms,and doesn't need a negative test.

Kolo · 27/12/2020 16:56

Hope your daughter remains well, in that case. I have known lots of children who have had covid, who have all been very mildly ill, and plenty of children who have been very close contacts (same households) and didn't catch it or develop symptoms. Hope you're not too worried.

twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 16:57

@Kolo

Hope your daughter remains well, in that case. I have known lots of children who have had covid, who have all been very mildly ill, and plenty of children who have been very close contacts (same households) and didn't catch it or develop symptoms. Hope you're not too worried.
Nah I'm not too worried she's a tough cookie
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Lougle · 27/12/2020 17:17

@Kolo

From what you've written, your child is a close contact of her dad (+ve from 23rd?) so began 10 days isolation then, followed unfortunately by close contact with you (from 25th?), so she should begin a second period of isolation of 10 full days from your symptoms/positive test. After that she should be free to go back to her setting, unless she develops symptoms,and doesn't need a negative test.
That's not what the official guidance says. The official guidance says that the isolation period starts on P1's (the first person with symptoms) day of symptoms starting and stops on day 11 (day of contact plus 10 full days). The isolation period is then extended for any people who develop symptoms (unless they test negative, in which case they revert to the original isolation period).

The only time you would restart the isolation is if they had done their 10 days, come out of isolation, then someone else in the family comes down with symptoms.

Kab30 · 27/12/2020 17:19

I didn't have symptoms but had a test as one of my staff had it .....so glad I did I was positive xx

Didyousaynutella · 27/12/2020 17:27

I don’t get the whole isolating while awaiting test results if you dont suspect it. I prevent people from coming forward to be tested. Fine if you have classic symptoms but if you don’t and just get tested to be on the safe side then you shouldn’t need to. Or people won’t bother to test at all.

twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 17:54

So I just got clarification from a million text messages from the nhs

So I have to stay in until 30th dec apparently and my daughter until 4th jan (I don't know why it's says feb I may have put the wrong month in her box)

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Lougle · 27/12/2020 18:54

Interesting that you only have to isolate until the 30th. That's 7 days after your DH fell ill and 5 days after you fell ill.

squiddybear · 27/12/2020 18:59

So if I've read this right anyone you saw on Christmas will also need to isolate for 10 days even with a negative test

squiddybear · 27/12/2020 19:02

I saw my parents and sister on Christmas morning before I fell ill, it literally hit me within an hour

Just re read and your parents and sister will need to isolate

OverTheRainbow88 · 27/12/2020 19:03

My husband fell ill 23rd December and received a positive results on the 25th

Why on earth did you see family when your husband was ill on the 23rd? Utterly stupid.

In England, the family you met up with whilst you should have been isolating need to isolate for 10 days

TildaTurnip · 27/12/2020 19:13

@OverTheRainbow88

My husband fell ill 23rd December and received a positive results on the 25th

Why on earth did you see family when your husband was ill on the 23rd? Utterly stupid.

In England, the family you met up with whilst you should have been isolating need to isolate for 10 days

Because he didn’t have Covid symptoms.
twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 19:17

@OverTheRainbow88

My husband fell ill 23rd December and received a positive results on the 25th

Why on earth did you see family when your husband was ill on the 23rd? Utterly stupid.

In England, the family you met up with whilst you should have been isolating need to isolate for 10 days

Read my previous post it explains it all before you get all judgey
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twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 19:18

@Lougle

Interesting that you only have to isolate until the 30th. That's 7 days after your DH fell ill and 5 days after you fell ill.
I know I'm proper confused but that's what it's saying ?
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twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 19:19

@squiddybear

I saw my parents and sister on Christmas morning before I fell ill, it literally hit me within an hour

Just re read and your parents and sister will need to isolate

Yeah they are going to isolate for ten days regardless Smile
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twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 19:22

@Lougle

Interesting that you only have to isolate until the 30th. That's 7 days after your DH fell ill and 5 days after you fell ill.
But the covid 19 app says I am to stay in until 4th jan

I know I put my details in correctly

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PaTCh64355 · 27/12/2020 19:23

People are so self righteous on here. Just don’t be a dick. Nothing to add about isolation periods I just wanted to add my support @twittwootwittwoo. Don’t feel like you have to justify yourself

twittwootwittwoo · 27/12/2020 19:28

@PaTCh64355

People are so self righteous on here. Just don’t be a dick. Nothing to add about isolation periods I just wanted to add my support *@twittwootwittwoo*. Don’t feel like you have to justify yourself
Thank you, I've never felt so ill in my life. I'm up to 14 symptoms now

Covid suck ass

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Lougle · 27/12/2020 19:36

I think you're right to go by the app. It makes no sense at all that they only want you to isolate for 5 days. I hope you feel better soon.

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