WARNING. Covid can spread very easily, an example - Hope it helps

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Just posted on another thread and I thought I'd give people a heads up to those that want to stay safe and keep others safe.

Someone we know was a fool and took a lift with a workmate as their other half was using the car. This person shared a car trip to work for 7 minutes max.Both of the fools did not wear a mask or open a window.
The driver then rang the person we knew a couple of days latter telling her that they had been diagonsed with Covid as their husband had it and that's why she took the test. So the person we know took the test and got a postive result.

This person is 65, working, no other medical problems. 7 days in from sharing the car they have no symptoms which is good. But you can become ill on the 10th/11th day from what I read or it gets worse.

As it's been a week and no symptoms, things are looking up.

I hope this thread helps and you are now more aware how easy Covid passes from person to person in an enclosed environment within a few minutes and both had no symptoms.

It is scary but hopefully taking precations, not sharing a car with strangers and when you do wear a mask, open windows, talk as little as possible and keep journeys small as possible may hopefully help all.

Thanks OP, we really needed that explained to us

I'm not sure why the OP is being given such a hard time, discussing the infection risk, when all around us we see people doing the most stupid things oblivious and in denial about the prevalence of infection, and how they should behave.

It's all very well going meh and minimising the message, but it's clearly passing a high proportion of the "I'm going to live my life" brigade at 100,000 feet otherwise we wouldn't be in this mess.

How is being in a confined, unventilated space less than a metre apart from someone for almost 10 minute an 'easy' way to catch the virus?

Years ago I passed on mycoplasma pneumonia to my best friend. Look it up, it’s one of the atypical pneumonias, can take a while to diagnose and treat. I had a cough when I got up that morning - nothing new as I’m asthmatic, have allergies and often have a cough. I went to a study day as planned, in a room with about 10 others for most of the day. I asked later and none of them caught it. That evening I picked up my friend from her place, drove down the coast for dinner, and back again. We sat opposite each other at dinner. Big table. My cough was bad. She was in my car for 2 sessions of 15 minutes. Windows possibly were open, it was a summer evening. I’ve no idea where I caught it from but it’s one nasty bug. We were both ill for a chunk of the summer. When I think how easily she caught that infection. Scary.

I wouldn't really say they were fools. And we don't know that is where they caught it, could be a coincidence.

@UnholyStramash

Years ago I passed on mycoplasma pneumonia to my best friend. Look it up, it’s one of the atypical pneumonias, can take a while to diagnose and treat. I had a cough when I got up that morning - nothing new as I’m asthmatic, have allergies and often have a cough. I went to a study day as planned, in a room with about 10 others for most of the day. I asked later and none of them caught it. That evening I picked up my friend from her place, drove down the coast for dinner, and back again. We sat opposite each other at dinner. Big table. My cough was bad. She was in my car for 2 sessions of 15 minutes. Windows possibly were open, it was a summer evening. I’ve no idea where I caught it from but it’s one nasty bug. We were both ill for a chunk of the summer. When I think how easily she caught that infection. Scary.

Poor you and your friend @UnholyStramash.

I once caught a chest infection off my friend, sitting outdoors in the open air in a pub garden. It is actually quite easy to catch viruses, even outdoors. Masks don't completely eliminate the risk, but they do lower it especially if as many people as possible try to wear one.

God you people are so sarky, the OP is saying that they were only together 7 minutes, often the advice about reducing risk is in reducing the number of hours spent together, not minutes. Then on one hand you say 'they were doing everything wrong of course he got it' and then say 'you can't prove he got it from him he could have got it anywhere'. Jesus you could argue that black is white I'm sure.

"I hope this thread helps and you are now more aware how easy Covid passes from person to person in an enclosed environment within a few minutes and both had no symptoms."

Hmm. What about classrooms? Of course, you'd then have to add in up to 30 people in that environment, plus loud voices and zero PPE.
But millions of people are continuing to send their children into exactly that set-up each day.

Don’t wish to be rude, but, ‘No shit, Sherlock’ 🤷🏻‍♀️

Was half-hoping this was the resolution thread from the person a few weeks back who was convinced she caught covid outdoors while on a socially distanced walk with a friend! They obviously never came back to update the actual test result.

Travelling in a car without masks is an obvious way to get infected. There are animated clips of how easily aerosol particles travel in a closed room, usually a restaurant. The same principle inside the tiny space of a car means the air is almost definitely teeming with virus particles after just speaking a few sentences.

Most people (unless you have OCD, emetophobia & co) often overlook what they do with their hands. They could have easily touched a door handle, car sun visor, button, seat knob or anything surface that was contaminated with aerosol and then transferred it into their face by scratching and itch or adjusting their mask. Many will completely forget that they did it and thus have "no idea" where they caught it from.

Oh please.

So, you are psychic then. Fantastic, what are next week's lottery numbers.

Or have you just decided that's where she caught it with no actual proof that is the case. Your friend been in a sanitised plastic bubble uninterrupted apart from that seven minutes, has she?

OMG what a REVELATION! How would we ever have known that Covid spreads in confined, enclosed spaces without the benefit of the OP sharing her helpful knowledge?

Oh wait. This is common knowledge and has been since about February.

Do not call people fools.
This name-calling has to stop.

You could have shared this story to make others aware without calling the people involved fools.

Brilliant OP. With you on the case, I think we might stop this pandemic in its tracks. Phew! thank goodness you shared this cautionary tale.

Interesting study from Korea

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33258335/

@ilhahih well it is pretty foolish! I would say its highly bloody likely the person caught it from the car. I have a lot to do with covid in my line of work and the staff outbreaks we have dealt with in many premises have been caused by car sharing.
Unfortunately I have to car share from time to time. Its drummed into us: masks on, windows open. Sit diagonally.

@PoulePouletteEternellement

But that isn't really an example of passing it on 'easily'; those two people almost went out of their way to share and transmit every possible virus between them.

Hope they respectively recover and stay well.

You have a point, thank you. The person we know, her husband said he'd drop her off at work and pick her up but she decided to take a lift from a work mate as that driver passed their road. In hindsight the infected lasy we know and even her husband is angry that he was not more forceful and why his wife never wore a mask and opened the window.

Like you, I too am hoping they'd get over it with not real, serious illness. Update, the husband is still wating for his reuslts but their children are clear.

Thank you

@Keepdistance

Agree op. Ive seen people having a play date and putting the other person's kid in their car. And GP who didnt want to walk in the rain so driving to pick up GC from school. Play dates if they wont stop having them, stay outside out of people's homes and cars.

Thank you. Not sure if these people are fools, idiots, clowns, careless about themselves and others or just ill educated. You only need a brain cell to work out that in winter in a car that has heating on that place is a party time for the Covid/virus to spread.

Anyone thinking of sharing a car or have no alternative, please all wear a mask, open a window/s, keep the trip short as poss and don't talk/laugh etc

@dizzydizzydizzy

Conversely, I had a ride in a car with a friend who 2 days later tested positive, and I didn’t catch it.

We both wore masks, sat diagonally opposite each other and had all windows open. Easy!

Thank you. FYI, older people two doors away from us in April the husband got the virus a pensioner, his wife a pensioner too did not nor their adult daughter that lives with them and works from home. But their house is quite big and they both sleep in seperate rooms.

@Hapixmas

I wouldn't really say they were fools. And we don't know that is where they caught it, could be a coincidence.

I agree and you could be right. To be clear, the driver/work mate her husband was ill at the time waiting a test result. The person we know and the driver had no symptoms. I am not sure if the driver is ill now but does have Covid. The person we know was feeling 100%, aged 65 but a few more worrying days.

@ilhahih

Do not call people fools. This name-calling has to stop.

You could have shared this story to make others aware without calling the people involved fools.

You have a point and noted, thanks. But I am angry that these people and people like them are not following the guidance and not just putting themselves at risks, but risking the lives of other people, EG, me, those around me, those in my village, town, county, country, world. If people followed the guidance, I'm sure we would not be where we are and heading.

[quote Northernsoullover]@ilhahih well it is pretty foolish! I would say its highly bloody likely the person caught it from the car. I have a lot to do with covid in my line of work and the staff outbreaks we have dealt with in many premises have been caused by car sharing.
Unfortunately I have to car share from time to time. Its drummed into us: masks on, windows open. Sit diagonally.[/quote]
Many, many thanks for the very helpful posts from someone in the know.

Is it too much to wear a mask and open a window even slightly if you can't fully open it as possibly rain/cold etc.

Our Government is putting herself first and Boris is only concerend about being popular, so it is up to you to not only look after yourself but others, so please follow the guidance and more as this lot in number 10 can't be trusted.

You only need a brain cell to work out that in winter in a car that has heating on that place is a
party time for the Covid/virus to spread.

Well, yeah. That's why everyone is having a go OP. You've started a thread stating the obvious.

@forwardsbackwardsrebound

Brilliant OP. With you on the case, I think we might stop this pandemic in its tracks. Phew! thank goodness you shared this cautionary tale.

I'm glad you was able to take time out to make your condesending comments. I just hope you pay as much attention to following the guidance.