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London "tier 4" and bubbles

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 14:35

So with all the speculation, it looks fairly likely that where my elderly dad lives will be in tier 4.

He lives alone and is in our bubble.

We are 120 miles away, Dh is due to go and pick him up to come and stay on 22nd.

This would still be allowed, right? As he's a single person.

He's very, very difficult and as much as I'd love a break from him for one year (he makes
Christmas a miserable experience), my life wouldn't be worth living if we said he couldn't come.

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 14:35

He's been coming once a month for a long weekend all the way through.

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Seeline · 19/12/2020 14:39

Until the rules are made public, no one knows

MarshaBradyo · 19/12/2020 14:40

No idea

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 14:42

I know no one really knows yet. I'm just at here waiting for the inevitable barrage of text messages from him.

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xxmassy · 19/12/2020 14:43

No idea but depends on travel bans etc. They probably don't think of support bubbles as being cross country?

Lifeispassingby · 19/12/2020 14:46

Who knows until it’s announced as anything is possible tbh. I can’t imagine them stopping single households mixing as this has always been allowed even during the ‘main’ lockdown. I feel your anxst regarding the announcement as we are hoping to go to FIL funeral but are likely to be in this new tier 4 and have no idea what that will mean

Billben · 19/12/2020 15:00

he makes Christmas a miserable experience), my life wouldn't be worth living if we said he couldn't come.

Sweet Lord. Why do people put up with a life like this?

sofiaaaaaa · 19/12/2020 15:03

What time is the press conference?

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 15:04

Billben mainly because apart from Dh and the kids he's my only family (and I am his). He's a good grandfather to my children. He's just extremely selfish and it gets worse as he gets older and it's me who bears the brunt.

I can't cut him off. Guilt and a sense of duty and there is love in there somewhere, even though it's difficult with his behaviour.

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JovialNickname · 19/12/2020 15:08

Slightly off topic but is this "Tier 4" bullshit actually fooling anyone? Is there anybody seriously thinking well no it's not a lockdown, it's Tier 4 so that's different? Why can't the government just be honest about what they're doing instead of playing semantics.

ancientgran · 19/12/2020 15:11

If it was my dad I'd go and get him now but maybe not appropriate from how you describe him.

I guess we all have to stay calm and wait and see. Then we can all have a massive paddy together. Well I'll have one on my own if I have ot.

ancientgran · 19/12/2020 15:12

Slightly off topic but is this "Tier 4" bullshit actually fooling anyone? Is there anybody seriously thinking well no it's not a lockdown, it's Tier 4 so that's different? Why can't the government just be honest about what they're doing instead of playing semantics. I think they've been lying for so long they don't know what the truth looks like.

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 15:14

Christ, I can't cope with him here for more than a few days! We've no room anyway, he sleeps on the sofa in a small house and with a teen, a young child and a baby it's awkward all round.

If we didn't go and get him he would drive here himself anyway and be bashing on the door.

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OllietheOwl · 19/12/2020 15:15

I’m in a bubble with my parents (baby under 1). I’m assuming/hoping this can still go ahead even under Tier 4?

Chloemol · 19/12/2020 15:16

Shall we just wait and see what is announced?

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 15:16

Slightly off topic but is this "Tier 4" bullshit actually fooling anyone? Is there anybody seriously thinking well no it's not a lockdown, it's Tier 4 so that's different? Why can't the government just be honest about what they're doing instead of playing semantics.

The whole thing is just one big mess.

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 15:17

@OllietheOwl see I'm sure bubbles will be okay.
And there was some recognition wasn't there that not everyone's bubble was local? Or did I make that up? I just don't know anymore, I'm fucking exhausted.

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Viviennemary · 19/12/2020 15:18

I read it's to beefier 4 for London with a travel ban. If anybody's listening.

StCharlotte · 19/12/2020 15:19

Where has Tier 4 come from?

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 15:20

Viviennemary I'm just hoping there will be some
clarification about travelling for "bubble" or caring reasons in that.

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Hayeahnobut · 19/12/2020 15:21

If he texts you before 4pm, send a holding message that you'll give him a call/ text when you know the full detail, and hide your phone until you've got that detail. It saves you feeling stressed by any more messages.

We've got the opposite problem, an elderly relative who will insist staying on his own, but we're very concerned about his health if he does. Let's hope that, for once, the messaging is clear.

Thewiseoneincognito · 19/12/2020 15:26

Some people have more bubbles than a bath.

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WankPuffins · 19/12/2020 15:29

@Thewiseoneincognito

Some people have more bubbles than a bath.
Ha! I know what you mean.

We only have my dad though and he only has us. (In-laws are much younger and are happy to only have seen us outside during the summer).

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FiddleyDoo · 19/12/2020 15:36

I'm in a similar position, but my mum is already here, with us, in the South East. She lives alone and so is in our bubble. I work in a school so wanted to get her back before start of term, but will she be allowed? I don't know. I hope you're able to make the least worst decision, there are no good ones right now.

thedevilinablackdress · 19/12/2020 15:36

Where has Tier 4 come from?

Scotland. We've had it for a while.
I apologise/you're welcome. Delete as applicable to your thoughts and preferences on the whole thing.

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