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I almost can’t stand it. What the hell will they be announcing now?

I can’t actually believe some of the responses on here. Tbh if I’d ‘wasted’ £300 on food I’d be happy with that. Instead I have to tell my DSS that we may not be able to travel for their GF funeral on Xmas eve. We are meant to have some kind of Xmas following that even though we are barely functioning. In comparison to job losses and family deaths a bit of food wasted is minuscule tbh

We have even given up Media Questions Bingo. We won every time.

We even made it harder for ourselves... 2 or 3 asking the same question on the trot... still won with boring regularity.

They are only making the misinformation more easily accessible!

I was furious at the journalists. Ridiculous point scoring when they could have asked meaningful questions.

I havent shopped for this week yet.
i think tesco is going to be utter carnage

Me neither. I have an online delivery coming tomorrow with non-perishables, my DP is heading to the supermarket at some point during the week for fresh stuff. We're having a vegetarian Xmas dinner so at least no worries about getting a turkey.

@Lifeispassingby I don't think it's either/or. A relative died in April & hardly anyone could attend the funeral. I still would like to see family at Christmas.

@BethlehemIsInTier1 no I am not a curtain twitcher. I am expecting quite a few parcels and I look out for them so that when I open the door my dogs don't shoot out and run into the road.

Also my dogs sometimes bark when a vehicle pulls up outside.

I am also not a snitch but I should be as my neighbour works in a care home or do you think that is ok?

Idiots like you should just fuck off

@Chaotic45 yes that was my point the government has ensured via support bubbles no one is lonely.

@MissMatchedClaws

Also sure Johnson said two households in tiers 2 and 3, but that’s not being reported now, so who knows maybe he read his script wrong?

He probably meant 2 OTHER households. Check gov.uk later

Acorn they have conflicting info still then. I typed that as it came up on screen and it was read out.

BJ said they could remain only "for people at particular risk of loneliness or isolation" but various online papers are reporting it in various different ways.

Clodhopping there’s only three of us, two singles, one widow, now banned. Who spends the day alone?

My ds is a uni student living in London and in our support bubble, so is he allowed back, we are tier 1

@whiskybysidedoor

why did the journalists all have to ask the same question pretty much, trying to just humiliate boris by saying he got it wrong. These people seem to forget their enormously privileged position and waste their precious access to ask questions, pushing a political agenda rather than a public health agenda.

I thought that. Lost the plot haven’t they, this is why the press and social media outlets get election results so very very wrong. Theyve got caught up in what they think is a popular narrative and not stopped to think or listen to what people want. Sad state of affairs. Should end their careers really.

What did you expect them to ask?

3 days ago Johnson said it would be "inhumane" to cancel the 5 days of xmas.

I would have asked why he made this promise in November, when it was impossible to say what would happen and why did he leave it so late when the new strain was identified on Dec 6th and last weekend hospitalisations were up 60% in London.

@Taystee29 you haven’t lost any money , that £100 has been spent whether you Auntie Jean eats the food or someone in a food bank does, or you freeze and eat it in January and even if it goes in the bin. You have had no monetary loss at all.

I can’t actually believe some of the responses on here. Tbh if I’d ‘wasted’ £300 on food I’d be happy with that. Instead I have to tell my DSS that we may not be able to travel for their GF funeral on Xmas eve. We are meant to have some kind of Xmas following that even though we are barely functioning. In comparison to job losses and family deaths a bit of food wasted is minuscule tbh

I'm sorry for your loss but good for you that youd be happy losing £300. Not many people are in your financial situation and it's not for you to tell them they cant be disappointed about it just because.youve had a bereavement.

I do hope you manage to get to the funeral

@Lifeispassingby

I can’t actually believe some of the responses on here. Tbh if I’d ‘wasted’ £300 on food I’d be happy with that. Instead I have to tell my DSS that we may not be able to travel for their GF funeral on Xmas eve. We are meant to have some kind of Xmas following that even though we are barely functioning. In comparison to job losses and family deaths a bit of food wasted is minuscule tbh

Surely they can still travel if it's for a funeral? My dad died in November and family from a tier 3 area travelled for his funeral. I'm sorry for you loss

We’re not in the South East. We took DS out of nursery so we could effectively isolate for 2 weeks before seeing my parents on Christmas Day. DH has a couple of occasions for work when he has to be in a very large space (a big hall), socially distanced at more than 2 metres and masked with others for a short period of time (an hour max). Other than that we are having no contact outside our household.

My parents were happy that we had minimised the risk as much as possible. We live 30 mins from them and haven’t seen them since July apart from dropping off shopping a couple of times. We were planning to stay 2 nights with them.

I know the rules will now say this is not possible. We’ve followed every rule to the letter up to this point. What’s getting to me now is that we are being so careful and if it was one parent rather than two we could be a bubble with them in any case. My parents don’t go out anymore and they are desperate for our company.

For the first time in all of this I feel really torn.

Could those with too much food cook or all in advance and then have a brief outdoor meeting between households to share it out?

@ActonBell That's how I feel, we didn't do any eat out to help out, haven't travelled for a holiday, don't shop or really socialise any more because I know how important Christmas is to my mum.

@AcornAutumn my post was clearly aimed at those planning large family gatherings, not the difficult situation you describe.

Acorn I would think that the 3 of you would still spend it together in your situation.
The 'rules' are different "for people at particular risk of loneliness or isolation".

I would have asked why he made this promise in November, when it was impossible to say what would happen and why did he leave it so late when the new strain was identified on Dec 6th and last weekend hospitalisations were up 60% in London.

And that changes what now to keep your loved ones safe and society functioning on a meaningful level? It’s a pandemic that we’ve not had before with a rapidly evolving set of circumstances which we need to adapt to and make the best of to look after our population now. Bitching and moaning about the past is a luxury reserved for the privileged and the idiots.

[quote Cloudhopping]@AcornAutumn my post was clearly aimed at those planning large family gatherings, not the difficult situation you describe.[/quote]
THIS! Acorn

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Do one?

To be fair it was always going to be more sensible to keep family gatherings as limited as possible, to make a Plan B.

Yeah. There's a difference between what you just said and 'I have no sympathy for people who had arranged large get-togethers, even if it was with family' (paraphrasing). Talk about snotty and unsympathetic!