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Breaking News - Press conference

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Redbrickwall · 19/12/2020 13:09

I almost can’t stand it. What the hell will they be announcing now?

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FlappingPancakes · 19/12/2020 16:48

Sorry we are in tier4, step kids in tier2 but we were having them for a week after Xmas

CastleOfDoom · 19/12/2020 16:49

@NellyJames

Sorry if I’ve missed it but what happens when you’re hosting and have spent a fortune on food that is now going to waste?

You get slagged off on here for being thick apparently Hmm

cptartapp · 19/12/2020 16:49

He did not say households reduced to two for mixing.

Cuddling57 · 19/12/2020 16:49

@SaxonWassail
I think I have the hots for Chris Witty.
Other than that - it's all a bit of a bugger.

Thank you for that 😂

FastMovingLuxuryGoods · 19/12/2020 16:49

@FlappingPancakes

Do we know if we can still see step kids in tier4 if they are in another tier?
If you are in T4 you can't travel to another tier.

And it is 2 households only in Tiers 1-3, on Xmas Day only.

Beautifulbonnie · 19/12/2020 16:49

@FlappingPancakes. I see it as no. Tier 4 can’t travel in or out. Nor can people travel in. (Might be wrong) I meant how I understood it

Lougle · 19/12/2020 16:49

@PimlicoJo

I'm sure he said that outside Tier 4 only 2 households could meet and for Xmas Day only.
I didn't hear that.
NellyJames · 19/12/2020 16:49

@heydoggee, yes thank you. I’m asking what happens when you’re a family of 5 who were mixing with one other family of 5 and a set of grandparents so we’d be a house of 12 (3 households) thus have spent £300 on food that we cannot get a refund for as there’s 5 of us and we thought we were feeding 12.

AuntieStella · 19/12/2020 16:49

@Plump82

I'm not sure they've said when NS will be speaking. Earlier statement said Scottish cabinet meeting this afternoon and more after that.

GrumblyMumblyisnotJumbly · 19/12/2020 16:49

@snowballer Credit would be to someone who had a) not promised a normal Christmas and b) if he had, had performed his u-turn some weeks ago when everyone was saying very loudly it was a terrible idea. He literally accused Keir Starmer three days ago at PMQs of wanting to cancel Christmas and said it would be "inhuman" to do so. He is a shambling mess of uselessness

I totally agree I just had a rush of relief that he's finally acted, Christmas bubbles, unlimited travel, 5 days knees-ups would have had disastorous consequences just as many of his previous policy decisions and personal actions had.

I wonder what Johnson himself will do for Christmas?

CeeceeBloomingdale · 19/12/2020 16:50

@FlappingPancakes

Sorry we are in tier4, step kids in tier2 but we were having them for a week after Xmas
From the bbc: People should not to travel into a tier four area, though support bubbles remain unaffected as do the exemptions for separated parents and their children.

For those in tiers one, two and three, rules allowing up to three households to meet will now be limited to Christmas Day only.

Christmas bubbles for those in tiers one to three will not be able include anyone in tier four.

In tier four, people should not mix with anyone outside their own household, apart from support bubbles.

ikswobel · 19/12/2020 16:50

Boris promises it will all be great at Easter now Hmm

RichardMarxisinnocent · 19/12/2020 16:50

@BinkyBoinky

I'm confused. He said if you're visiting family members who are in danger of loneliness then that is OK.??

I'm in tier 4 and so is my mum who in her 80s. I have been isolating and working from home for weeks. She has been looking forward to Christmas for weeks, and now will be all alone?

I also don't have a car so I can't go "just for the day" as there will be no transport.

So what do i do?

He said that in the context of support bubbles continuing to exist (as they are intended for people who are in danger of loneliness), so if your mum is in a support bubble with you, I believe you can see her.
CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/12/2020 16:50

So a buffet for 16 people will spread it but schools full of children won't? Patients in hospitals wont spread.it? Patients being discharged to care homes dont spread it.but heaven forbid that somebody have a buffet for.boxing day.

You have been to a buffet, haven't you? So you know how it works. Everyone touching the same spoons as everyone else. Kids picking food up and putting it back or putting their finger in things. People sitting in different seats between platefuls of food. People forgetting which glass is theirs and drinking out of someone else's by mistake.
People serving themselves out of bottles that multiple other people have helped themselves to. People licking their fingers as buffets contain a lot of finger food. Then they go back for seconds. People opening packs of food. People with less stringent hygiene practices than one's own coughing into their hand or sneezing then just wiping on their clothes (particularly kids) then going back to pick up a serving spoon with only a quick "sorry".

None of this happens in schools. The kids are made to use sanitiser before they enter. You get your food served by the catering staff and only touch your own stuff mainly using cutlery. Then where you sat is cleaned afterwards, as is the table, before the next bubble comes in.

And there is no alcohol served in schools (unfortunately Grin). Unlike buffets and types of family get-togethers where people's inhibitions and awareness of social distancing and hygiene go out the window after a few drinks.

I get that people want to have Christmas dinner together but that is more controllable. We decided against it in my family, but had we done it we would have changed the way we do things - it would have been no shared food or drinks bottles at all. All food dished out onto plates in the kitchen by one person with thorough hygiene measures. Normally we just lay everything on the table and help ourselves when we want more.

I can't believe people have actually planned buffets. [bangs head on table]

CuriousaboutSamphire · 19/12/2020 16:50

Marsha he said the next review would be end of December and not to plan going out on new years eve! So the next planned review will be the earliest.

He was asked if it could be earlier and said no.

FlappingPancakes · 19/12/2020 16:50

Thanks @CeeceeBloomingdale I'm glad we can still see them!

chomalungma · 19/12/2020 16:51

Boris does like to promise lots....and then has to take it away

Frostythesnowwoman · 19/12/2020 16:51

Everyone in all tiers must stay local

What does everyone take this to mean (beyond the obvious!). Can people still travel to family on Xmas day?

catpoooffender · 19/12/2020 16:51

To be clear THREE HOUSEHOLDS CAN STILL MIX ON CHRISTMAS DAY IN TIERS 1-3!

(Will be embarrassed if it turns out I'm wrong but I'm DEFINITELY NOT)

Bathroom12345 · 19/12/2020 16:51

So on this thread we have had people say they aren’t going to listen, what do they do with preordered food and they don’t like the government so are going to do what like!

This is exactly why we are in this situation.

Talia99 · 19/12/2020 16:51

@BinkyBoinky, if your Mum is a single adult (or if you are) they haven’t cancelled support bubbles so you can visit under that rule.

I am visiting an elderly aunt for Christmas and we are covered by the support bubble rule as I am a single adult and have not bubbled with anyone else. I am therefore going to stay with her from Christmas Eve to Boxing Day since stays overnight are allowed under the support bubble rules.

I have been isolating for the last 7 days so it isn’t only legal, it’s also safe.

AaronPurr · 19/12/2020 16:52

@catpoooffender

To be clear THREE HOUSEHOLDS CAN STILL MIX ON CHRISTMAS DAY IN TIERS 1-3!

(Will be embarrassed if it turns out I'm wrong but I'm DEFINITELY NOT)

BBC just said exactly that, so I don't think you're wrong.
SeaSeeker · 19/12/2020 16:52

So bubbles don’t exist anymore? We can’t form bubbles with one other household or if we do they can only be on Christmas Day? I can’t form a bubble with one other household (from a tier 2 area) over several days?

Beautifulbonnie · 19/12/2020 16:52

@BinkyBoinky

No travelling in or out of their 4.

bettxmascake · 19/12/2020 16:53

@Yuppie20

So I'm trying to figure out, I'm in NI and supposed to be flying with my partner and baby to my mum and dad's between 24th and 28th Dec. Does this mean now that I can't go? I understand the urgency of needing something but my mum and dad were alone last year and can't bear the thought of them being alone again this year, my baby brother died on xmas eve and its just so important for out mental health to be together this year. I'm devastated 💔
@yuppie20 un Mumsnetty hugs and Flowers