How do people feel about their kids being a herd?

[wondersun]

It seems that Boris never did put down the herd immunity idea.

I’m wondering if he still wants that big win? Take a risk with the kids but get normality back before any other country.

First with the vaccine. Thinking a little bit of short term herd immunity on the side can’t help?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/14/herd-immunity-boris-johnson-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR2C-wGREPNhwfGAvgM06MbN-6ErvHImRXwbbiH4KAIulTnCCtUSYIa-4tA

I'm so angry with the whole thing. He has blood on his hands.

It’s just awful isn’t it. I’m hoping that people start to see it. But so many can’t vote with their feet without the support of the government.

I don’t think people will forget this for decades.

It's blindingly obvious that's what happening. Even THIS government couldn't be so inept. Children MUST be in school. What, so teenagers can't do the last 4 days before the Christmas holidays online eh? Bollocks to the lying swine.

I am so angry. We have been sending our kids to school in masks but are genuinely contemplating home schooling now as I do not consent for my kids & our family (& the teachers they adore) to be part of this mass experiment that has no scientific basis.
And frankly I am ashamed at how complacent & docile most parents are. Our kids deserve better. We all do.

I am fine about my secondary age kids being in a herd. They are fine about it too. Both have taken turns at self-isolation because they were in contact with infected classmates (apparently) but always preferred to going back to school once their self-isolation period ended than do remote learning.

Why are people not ouraged when adults are asked to become a herd through taking a Covid vaccine which also carries risks?

Obviously I'm not saying it's right for kids, but there should not be double standards

outraged I mean

@blueshoes

I am fine about my secondary age kids being in a herd. They are fine about it too. Both have taken turns at self-isolation because they were in contact with infected classmates (apparently) but always preferred to going back to school once their self-isolation period ended than do remote learning.

I think you would be slightly less "fine" about it if I could introduce you to some of the children I know left long term disabled

@trulydelicious

Why are people not ouraged when adults are asked to become a herd through taking a Covid vaccine which also carries risks?

Obviously I'm not saying it's right for kids, but there should not be double standards

what risks do you think taking the vaccine carries compared to the risks of covid?

It's the teachers I feel the worst for. My eldest is only 5. I think the chances of her getting seriously ill with covid are quite small, but her teachers and teaching assistants might not be so lucky.

I do see why primary age children have to be in school, from an economic perspective, as their parents may not be able to work if they can't sense their dcs to school. Not saying the economy should be prioritised over health, but at least I can understand why they are doing that. I don't get why secondary age children, age 15 and up especially, have to be in school. Most children that age can be left at home and most will be able to work a laptop better than their parents, so could work from home.

But maybe a secondary teacher will be along to tell me that they are better off in school. I know one secondary teacher who was livid about the first lockdown as she wanted to see her pupils and felt it was a very big deal that she couldn't teach them in person. So I may be talking absolute nonsense.

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Children should be in school. Totally happy for mine to be a herd. My son (yr 8) has had 6 weeks off so far this term and was sent home again last week for the rest of term. Have no time at all for this government but he should be in school, not at home. He is home this time not isolating at least but because so many others are. Teachers and school staff need vaccinating ASAP, they’re the ones that shouldn’t be a herd.

It feels inevitable at this point we'll catch it from school. It doesn't matter how careful you are when your child is in a so called bubble with 300 others with not enough safety measures in place. Every person in my household is classed as low risk but after my eldest child and I were really severely ill with flu, I do worry about the longterm effects of covid.

If you read on here just before schools reopened after the summer and other places too, there was so many parents willing and able to keep their children home. Except the government wouldn't allow it. Every child must be in school no matter to cost. Really? Despite the fact that schools wouldn't have been as full making them safer? No consideration to blended learning? I read a vulnerable father is being fined for not sending his child to school. The government is an absolute disgrace.

I'm fine about it. The risk of DS missing more school is more concerning to me than Covid if we look at statistics. He is primary age though.

Ds is better off in school. He has other things going on that are a bigger risk to him than covid.

I’m far more angry that a local NEU tweeted this as representing their members thoughts on teaching children.

I'm fine with it, the children won't be getting vaccinated anyway will they?
I assume DS has had it as I have and he was ill before me. He needs to be in school, he is in year 10 and doesn't do at all well with remote learning.

Im OK with it, I've just heard an interview with a top doctor, didn't catch his name, who said children should e in schools. The harms of missing education are greater than the risks of covid and surprisingly that statistically the teaching profession doesn't have a higher rate of cases than other jobs.

So what is it you want? Blanket move to online for all school children?

I hate this - why don't secondary DCs learn online - usually from DPs of younger DCs.
DS14 gradually lost interest in online teaching- most of it wasn't online anyway- and became withdrawn because he wasn't seeing his pals. He put on weight because of lack of exercise.

He's back to normal now, thank goodness . So it's not a zero sum game - catch coronavirus or have lovely safe home teaching - home learning creates its own long and short term issues.

@Covidnomore

So what is it you want? Blanket move to online for all school children?

This. And also children won’t be getting the vaccine. For a while anyway.

Once the threat of overwhelming NHS is gone there won’t be much of a barrier to children getting it. Although depends how much growth slows down when others are vaccinated.

I feel apoplectic.

My child, 14, caught Covid at a school which was not 'Covid safe'. It was passed on by a classmate and three of them in the form had it simultaneously.

He didn't simply brush it off, either. He's a fit boy, who runs cross country. Weeks after and I can see he's still knocked about by it.

We still have no idea about what the long term effects of contracting covid may be, if there is unseen damage. So no, I'm very much not happy about my kids being a herd.

My daughter is a secondary school teacher in a high case area. I fear for her more than anything else.

Exactly RM I follow a long covid kids account on Twitter and there are some pretty damning stories.