Derbyshire

[Countrylifestyle22]

So I’m in the Derbyshire Dales, does anyone think we might be moved down to a tier two on Wednesday? Our rates were never particularly high and I believe they’ve fallen since the last review.
Very rural here, more sheep than people where I am! So seems absurd to me that we’re in tier three and London is in tier two.

Dunno, but I’m in Sheffield Tier 3. And our rates have come down, but apparently we are staying in Tier 3.

I wouldn’t count on it. Rates are rising again, and Xmas is going to hit hard. I think if anything they are going to squeeze more than relax.

I think they will be reluctant to divvie up areas into smaller areas just before permission-to-mix

The expectation is the London will move into tier 3, isn't it?

It's not just case numbers, it's hospital capability, and case numbers in the vulnerable and elderly (ie those most likely to end up in hospital, as opposed to school and university outbreaks, which usually lead to only small numbers of hospitalisations - usually the staff or parents if pupils bring it home from school)

I live in Derbyshire too, OP - Erewash. I think lumping the whole county in together is ridiculous when the rates and population are so different in, for example, places like Derbyshire Dales and, say, Long Eaton.

I'm in the High Peak and our rates, which were higher than yours, have come down by a lot. I've just seen on a DM link on another thread that Derby a d Derbyshire are now yellow a d may drop to Tier 2 whilst London moves up to Tier 3 🤞🤞

I’m in a very rural part of Essex and expected to go into tier 3 very shortly even though cases remain very low!

I doubt they will move anywhere down a tier when they are just about to let the whole country out for the Xmas germ fest. Very happy to be proved wrong though.

Lots of pubs/cafes round here decorated and ready to go with festive menus. All ready to adhere to covid guidelines. It's heartbreaking that some our rural pubs cant open when you see the crowds in the cities

My worry is that Derbyshire will be penalised by Derby Royal's capacity being affected by cases beyond the county, particularly pickìng up the slack for Leciester when required, but also the Trust covering NE Staffs.

The actual cases across the county do not justify tier 3 and the economic destruction of it. Cases peaked and were falling rapidly before the impacts of the lockdown were felt, and the areas that were initially high such as Erewash have come right down. Towns such as Long Eaton have had days of being so low that that numbers are suppressed to protect personal data!

Derbyshire has so many external influences, Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham, Staffs and its own assortment of remote countryside, market towns and the city, it's totally unrealistic to expect it to behave as an isolated bubble and penalise people living 2 hours away at the opposite end of the county for a totally different situation.

Completely agree. Our nearest hospitals are both in Cheshire and both in Tier 2. Occasionally people from the High Peak go to Chesterfield but it's not the norm.

Hospital capacity is one of the key points in Tiers

So judging by these replies, I probably shouldn’t get my hopes up I guess.
I saw on twitter that there was supposedly a strong case for putting us into tier 2 so I was being cautiously optimistic.

I’m in Erewash in Derbyshire and I agree we should really be in tier 2. Surely London is a much higher threat of spreading the virus with it being so densely populated. I think we’ll stay in tier 3 until after the new year though and maybe get moved down then if the numbers don’t sky rocket across the country during the Christmas week

Northumberland was originally put into Tier 3 because of Newcastle and the Tyne and Wear conurbations meeting the Tier 3 criteria and the concerms that people from those areas would simply travel the short distance to the pubs and restaurants in the more rural county.
I wonder if Derbyshire's Tier is at least partly dependent on Derby, Sheffield etc?

Probably depends if Derbyshire is treated as one single area, and how much hospital capacity is used as the over-riding metric. If London stays in Tier 2, which it probably will, hospital capacity will most likely be the reason cited. Likewise if all of Derbyshire is kept in Tier 3.

The Derbyshire districts have come down a lot as compared to the position at the start of lockdown

I really hope we do come down, I’m keeping my fingers firmly crossed. We’ve come down a lot so surely we have a chance?

I hope so. Apparently Nottingham have been told to expect to stay in tier 3 though despite their cases dropping a lot so we may end up the same.

Unfortunately, the numbers in the Royal Derby hospital have increased rather than decrease, and I imagine that will have an impact on any decision made.

I live near to the Derbyshire Dales and my parents live in NE Derbyshire, funnily enough I was having the same conversation about this today- I feel it's vastly unfair for the dales to be kept in tier 3 as the rates are so low and well below the average but I guess if they lump all of Derbyshire in together then the average rate may be enough to keep it in tier 3. Where I am we are at the average rates but apparently the hospitals are still too strained. Would love tier 2 tho

I'd just love to break up a tedious weekend by going into a pub for lunch rather than Greggs or McDonalds in the car.

Lovely village pub nearby finally managed to open in August after their inital plans for April after a couple of years of closure and a refurbishment. I want them to survive.

Hello fellow Dales neighbour. I would love to move down to tier 2, and we should be with the small amount of cases we're having. I feel so sorry for all the affected business, but I've got a bad feeling they'll keep us in until after Christmas as least, so as not to encourage pre-Christmas mingling 🙄

I love visiting parts of the dales in Derbyshire and when allowed I did regularly as only a few miles from some lovely places. I think a concern could also be if they put you in tier 2 all the tier 3 lot that live nearby will come and visit !!!

Yeah, l live in Sheffield. Peak District was in Tier 2 and Sheffield in Tier 3. Mass exodus to Peak District.

@Chosennonesneakymincepie

I'm in the High Peak and our rates, which were higher than yours, have come down by a lot. I've just seen on a DM link on another thread that Derby a d Derbyshire are now yellow a d may drop to Tier 2 whilst London moves up to Tier 3 🤞🤞

Do you have a link please? Just wondering if there’s info on there about other areas

Also in High Peak, we could walk to Tier 2 village which is much busier than where we are, so annoying.

Chesterfield here. Hoping for Tier 2 but don't have high hopes although the local hospital is not overwhelmed. I'd love to have a meal out, I'd even be happy to sit outside wrapped up warm.