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People who have had a anaphylactic history, can’t have either of the COVID vaccines currently available, anyone else in the same situation?

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OnlyJoking1 · 11/12/2020 07:21

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/warning-patients-pfizer-biontech-covid-allergic-reactions-b229762.html?fbclid=IwAR2fOmoI4ZQpkagdc8GnnydbWLbDMNbIm0iN36TNWtYTlI0fO_CjDktRop8

I would have had the jab if it was safe, I also can’t have the flu vaccine because although the injection contents and the bung the needle goes though are without latex.
they put a latex cover over the needle, which ended up as me getting bluelight transport and a few days in HDU,that was when I last had the flu jab in 2012.

My GP won’t let me have jabs unless I go into hospital, but she and I knows that hospitals will currently have a huge amount of airborne latex.
So we know going into hospital to have the jab then I’d end up with The crash team on standby.
My husband said They were rapid & very good when they were called see us all, in the allergy testing clinic.

I’d just had the skin prick tests, that triggered my very first anaphylactic event in the consultants surgery, which proved handy as a learning experience, as he got to see a live anaphylactic reaction from start to finish. I got a very clear diagnosis. My DH was with me in the office so the consultant explained everything to him, poor DH was quite sure I wouldn’t survive. We got used to dealing with it, but had over a dozen ambulance trips in the first year.

How do those of you with an anaphylaxis history handle the people who think You’re just being a precious little ❄️

There’s a lot of abuse for those who don’t have the new COVID jab, people like us can do without the abuse, how do others handle that?

I shouldn’t have to explain and justify, I’m considering telling the more vocal people who are pro vaccine no ifs or buts, that I’ve had the jab so I don’t get abuse.

What, if anything have people found that has helped them?

Do you have any tips for me?
I’m on a couple of groups, but the one just for latex anaphylaxis I joined recently, is a bit odd, even by my standards
Lots of talk of what stuff is latex free in sex shops, on the need-to-know basis, it was too much for me to know,when talk turned to latex free double ended dildos and bondage gear.

Any and all ideas welcome —I— —hope—

Feel Add your own Punctuation marks and grammar to all the above I’m running on no sleep for a while.

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slipperywhensparticus · 11/12/2020 07:25

I wish they wouldn't use latex for this my daughter has skin reaction to latex fortunately its no worse but I always worry it will get worse

My dad can't have penicillin so he can't have the vaccine too

housemdwaswrong · 11/12/2020 07:27

I wondered if I would be able to have it but it seems I can. I never had given any thought to justifying it to anyone bar for saying I can't have it. Lots of abuse online perhaps, but surely no-one irl would criticise anyone that genuinely can't have it, or am I just being naive?

Jrobhatch29 · 11/12/2020 07:33

@slipperywhensparticus

I wish they wouldn't use latex for this my daughter has skin reaction to latex fortunately its no worse but I always worry it will get worse

My dad can't have penicillin so he can't have the vaccine too

Oh no I hadn't even thought of this. My nanna is allergic to penicillin, does that mean she can't have it? She's 82 and on dialysis every other day at the hospital. None of us have been able to visit her, we were hoping she would get it soon
YeahNahWhal · 11/12/2020 07:42

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Epi Pen for shellfish, and loads of milder food allergies that don't require adrenaline (yet).

Really curious to see what's in the Pfizer vaccine. I would like to know if it's an ingredient that caused the reactions or if there's some immune response issue.

Hope the NHS staff who had the reactions are ok and recover quickly. 💐

OnlyJoking1 · 11/12/2020 07:50

The news article just says that anyone who has an any anaphylactic reaction must not have the jab, other allergies are worth a checking.

This is not just about latex anaphylaxis people, the latex for me just adds another level of complication.

Sorry I’m not great at explain.
I’ve not had abuse from people who know me well, I’ve seen how COVID threads can go on MN, I’m not brave enough to mention it on SM, though awareness does need raising.
Poinsettia plants kiwi tomato and banana are all relative to the latex family.

I’ve got an image in my head of all the abandoned PPE latex style being abandoned and everywhere.
It’s bad enough already trying to avoid the balloons and the rubber bands the posties love, it’s just another obstacle to navigate.

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CandleWick4 · 11/12/2020 07:53

Can I ask where people have seen the info about penicillin allergy from? My DM has an allergy to that and I’d like to know what the guidelines are before she goes for hers. Thanks!

CandleWick4 · 11/12/2020 07:55

She’s never had an anaphylactic reaction I don’t think though. Is that what the rule is? If you’ve ever had an anaphylactic shock to anything or just to specific things?

LemonTT · 11/12/2020 08:06

Guidance on the contradictions for the Pfizer vaccine has been issued to vaccination clinics and gp practices. Gps will be screening patients as part of their vaccine call. The guidance is very specific and does not apply to all allergies.

All vaccination clinics now have recovery rooms staffed with qualified hcp who are aware of the initial symptoms of anaphylaxis.

The Pfizer vaccine notoriously doesn’t come in syringes. It’s comes in vials and is prepared on site. It’s worth checking if concerns about the need are relevant.

The only requirement to reveal vaccination status in this country applies in specified jobs for specified diseases. There is no real value to the general public in knowing whether someone is vaccinated against COVID. This vaccine is being given to prevent or reduce serious infection in an individual. It is not known if it prevents transmission ain’t the community.

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Newnametoday47 · 11/12/2020 08:25

Having done the training to give the Pfizer vaccine this week I can tell you it is people with a history of anaphylaxis, not ‘just’ and allergy to something who are being advised not to have it at this point.

The syringes we use to draw up/administer and the top on the vaccine are non-latex.

But because of your anaphylaxis history you’d be advised against it, not because it contains latex.

macaroniinapot · 11/12/2020 08:26

Don’t have allergies so can’t offer practical advice but just wanted to say I feel passionately about anti-vaxers and people who don’t want this vaccine, but would never think badly of you for not getting it. It’s precisely for people like you that others should get it done. I think people forget not everyone has the luxury of being able to be easily vaccinated and we need to establish some sort of herd immunity to protect those people.

CrunchyCarrot · 11/12/2020 08:27

My feeling is that it's the PEG (polyethylene glycol) in the nanoparticle envelope that goes around the mRNA that is the ingredient causing problems.

I don't have any anaphylactic allergies, but I do have plenty of allergies and have no intention of prodding my very prickly immune system deliberately. People can abuse me all they like about not having the jab, but it's my body and I must do what's best for me. If you come up against the 'no ifs or buts' people then there's no point explaining to them. I dislike the way some folk have become very 'black and white' about this issue (and others!). Life is rarely black or white.

Latex allergy sounds awful, OP (mind you, no allergy is fun), made worse because it's everywhere.

trulydelicious · 11/12/2020 09:25

@OnlyJoking1

You shouldn't have to be justifying yourself to anyone and nobody should be abusing you, specially regarding your choice over a vaccine/medical treatment

Your body, your decision

trulydelicious · 11/12/2020 09:26

@OnlyJoking1

Some are requesting that this is discussed in Parliament and it's scheduled to go ahead next week.

It's that serious

CityCommuter · 11/12/2020 09:36

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Bumble84 · 11/12/2020 09:39

And you and others like you are exactly the reason that everyone else who can get the vaccine should, to protect you. I’m fed up hearing, well I’m healthy so I’m not getting it. It’s not just about them!!!!

OnlyJoking1 · 11/12/2020 09:47

Thank you all for being so lovely.
I wasn’t brave enough to post in AIBU.

I also can’t wear most of the face covering because the elastic round my ears caused swelling, I have my sunflower lanyard on. With exemption on it.
But still get hassle, it has improved, because I’m not going out out.

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trulydelicious · 11/12/2020 09:49

@Bumble84

Everyone has the right to remain healthy, not just the people who cannot be vaccinated.

And I'm not saying anyone should or should not take these vaccines, just that people should be able to make their own decisions and not have to tolerate abuse if they decide not to take them for whatever reason.

trulydelicious · 11/12/2020 09:50

@OnlyJoking1

Your Covid vaccination status should not be visible to anyone, it's not the same as a face mask

picklemewalnuts · 11/12/2020 09:50

Just nod and smile. Don't join in the conversations. If you feel you have to, 'GP won't let me have it'.

It's a worry for those who are a bit borderline- prone to allergies, but not had anaphylaxis.

Or my mum, had anaphylaxis once, 30 years ago.

  1. Hard to know what the biggest risk is.
OnlyJoking1 · 11/12/2020 09:50

Sorry I can’t keep up or remember names, if it gets to parliament that would be awesome.

Any links or updates also very useful.

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blissfulllife · 11/12/2020 09:50

My daughter has severe allergies to nuts, seeds, latex and egg. Her immunology nurse explained that most vaccines are produced in egg solution. After she caught flu which lead to double pneumonia some years ago where we nearly lost her,we decided she'd have the flu jab. Was done in hospital and thankfully no reaction. When it switched to nasal vaccines for children she went into anaphylactic shock but was bought under control quickly. Went back to jabs and she's fine. I'm still going to want her to have the COVID jab, but obviously in hospital. She's brittle asthmatic and other health problems. I'm hoping she can have it fingers crossed

picklemewalnuts · 11/12/2020 09:51

OP, I react to the elastic in knickers sometimes. Not the way you do, but it does make me aware!

Ginfordinner · 11/12/2020 09:52

@Bumble84

And you and others like you are exactly the reason that everyone else who can get the vaccine should, to protect you. I’m fed up hearing, well I’m healthy so I’m not getting it. It’s not just about them!!!!
I totally agree with you.
trulydelicious · 11/12/2020 09:52

@OnlyJoking1

And I think you shouldn't have to tolerate abuse for not being able to wear a face mask either!