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Are you ready for another 6 months of restrictions ?

421 replies

Xtfc123 · 10/12/2020 19:33

Does anybody think that this will all be normal by March/April, no more masks or restrictions ?
Ready to 'do your bit' and not see family and friends and have restrictions on your lives until potentially summer ?

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Kokeshi123 · 12/12/2020 12:13

Oh God, the "proper lockdown" people.

You can't lock down essential services (unless you want to try living with no water, electricity, sewage, food, police force etc.) so the only real difference between "proper lockdown" and what we did in the UK was that people in the UK were allowed to walk around outside. Which we now know (although some of us were trying to point this out back in the spring) does not spread COVID-19. It basically does not spread out of doors unless there is serious crowding (events, festivals, spectator sports etc.). What on earth was Spain's ridiculous "proper lockdown" supposed to have achieved?

As far as I can see, the only thing it did was ensured that Spaniards were so mentally unhinged by the end of it that a lot of them rushed straight back into the bars and pubs.

MarshaBradyo · 12/12/2020 12:22

@Hardbackwriter

Other countries like Spain, who had the hard lock down other MNetters cream themselves over didnt work, they are as bad as us. France who put their poor students in Chalk circles and masks up everyone permanently likewise have been in our position too. This just demonstrates that it isnt the answer!

It absolutely amazes me that at this point there are still posters on MN blathering on about we should have had a 'proper lockdown' like Spain... At this point it's so clear that it was pointless cruelty that endorsing it is just admitting that you hate people and want them to suffer.

Yep people still driving at taking as much away from people as possible
onedayinthefuture · 12/12/2020 12:23

@Kokeshi123

Oh God, the "proper lockdown" people.

You can't lock down essential services (unless you want to try living with no water, electricity, sewage, food, police force etc.) so the only real difference between "proper lockdown" and what we did in the UK was that people in the UK were allowed to walk around outside. Which we now know (although some of us were trying to point this out back in the spring) does not spread COVID-19. It basically does not spread out of doors unless there is serious crowding (events, festivals, spectator sports etc.). What on earth was Spain's ridiculous "proper lockdown" supposed to have achieved?

As far as I can see, the only thing it did was ensured that Spaniards were so mentally unhinged by the end of it that a lot of them rushed straight back into the bars and pubs.

Completely agree. I still am so shocked that children were kept inside for so long. It's criminal. My Spanish friends don't have kids but they are adamant they can't do that again.

I am very thankful that our government didn't go that far.

lockdownalli · 12/12/2020 12:37

@HazeyJaneII

On the flipside what annoys me, is that if I think that we needed some sort of restrictions to curtail the spread of the virus over the last 9 months, and will continue to as we roll out the vaccine...and think that, unfortunately, due to the fuck ups of the government so far, that there has to be some sort of intermittent lockdowns...that must mean I am a smug mumsnetters, languishing in SAHM comfort, 'creaming' myself at the restrictions and with no clue of how hard this whole fucking awful year has been.
Totally agree with this.
Requinblanc · 12/12/2020 12:38

Frankly the amount of people who have not followed the rules in London where I live just shows you that people are already fed up with this and the compliance is going down.

So no, further restrictions that drag on will simply fail.

The government needs to step up the vaccine roll out and a proper test/track/trace. I think this nonsense about restrictions going on for months/years has to stop.

Once there are vaccines, any further curbs on people's freedom past the spring are starting to look increasingly questionable.

DdraigGoch · 12/12/2020 13:04

I'm happy to continue wearing masks for as long as necessary. They are but a minor irritant so ought to be the last restriction to go. Hopefully we will see a gradual rolling back of the other restrictions from March onwards, starting with the ones which do the most damage to the economy.

Gwenhwyfar · 12/12/2020 13:10

@DdraigGoch

I'm happy to continue wearing masks for as long as necessary. They are but a minor irritant so ought to be the last restriction to go. Hopefully we will see a gradual rolling back of the other restrictions from March onwards, starting with the ones which do the most damage to the economy.
Minor irritant to you, bigger irritant to others.
Hollyhead · 12/12/2020 15:43

@DdraigGoch I don’t mind masks at the moment, I imagine once the weather warms up my patience will wear thin!

WouldBeGood · 12/12/2020 15:47

Masks can fuck off asap

SpnBaby1967 · 12/12/2020 17:57

@Kokeshi123

Oh God, the "proper lockdown" people.

You can't lock down essential services (unless you want to try living with no water, electricity, sewage, food, police force etc.) so the only real difference between "proper lockdown" and what we did in the UK was that people in the UK were allowed to walk around outside. Which we now know (although some of us were trying to point this out back in the spring) does not spread COVID-19. It basically does not spread out of doors unless there is serious crowding (events, festivals, spectator sports etc.). What on earth was Spain's ridiculous "proper lockdown" supposed to have achieved?

As far as I can see, the only thing it did was ensured that Spaniards were so mentally unhinged by the end of it that a lot of them rushed straight back into the bars and pubs.

Exactly this!
Delatron · 12/12/2020 18:10

I’m still upset about the Spanish children. That worked well didn’t it.

Delatron · 12/12/2020 18:12

And yes then they opened all the nightclubs and said invite 10 people over for dinner! Great lockdown and opening up. Pointless.

MarshaBradyo · 12/12/2020 18:15

Yes it was a bad move on both counts.

More even keel please! And I include us in that

Delatron · 12/12/2020 18:42

Yes to even keel. Lurching from lockdown to too much mixing is ridiculous.

Youngatheart00 · 12/12/2020 18:45

I am anticipating some pretty heavy duty restrictions in January. I think by April life will be more normal.

Said it just now on another thread too, but I’m really really worried about the collective mental health of the nation in January, which is largely a depressing month anyway.

DdraigGoch · 12/12/2020 18:49

Minor irritant to you, bigger irritant to others.
Considering that most of the other measures introduced by our esteemed First Minister pretty much take away everything in life worth living for (I can't even go to a nature reserve any more - you can't get more covid-secure than a bloody nature reserve!) and don't actually do anything to stop the spread, I'd say that masks are minor by comparison. If wearing masks for a bit longer means that life can resume then I'm happy to wear them.

Most of you will only have to wear them for short periods of time while in shops, I have to wear them for far longer at work.

DdraigGoch · 12/12/2020 19:00

@Kokeshi123 I reckon that is the very reason why parts of Wales are seeing cases completely out of control now.

For those in England who haven't been aware of what's going on, here's a summary:

-Drakeford decides to implement Keir Starmer's idea of a 'firebreak lockdown'. Everything shuts down again for two weeks, whether you are in an urban area with huge numbers of cases or in a rural area with few.

  • At the end of those two weeks, pretty much all restrictions were lifted, again no matter whether you are in a good or a bad area.
  • Some people decided as a result to catch up on two weeks of drinking in one go, result is a superspreader pub crawl in Cardigan.
  • Some areas in South Wales which have been bad throughout see their cases go from "really quite bad" to "worst in Europe"
  • First Minister panics and starts sequentially shutting everything down again. Not that banning the consumption of alcohol in licenced premises, shutting restaurants at 6pm and closing nature reserves will have any impact on a virus being spread in private homes...
Whattheactual20201 · 12/12/2020 19:20

Tbh is think it’s highlighted a much bigger problem in our country that needed highlighting. Every other person I see on social media, or sites like this seem to be struggling with mental health even for things like isolation for 9 days.
That is a much bigger issue than the isolations rules.
We are not locked in our houses 24/7 people are allowed bubbles etc
We have always been allowed out the house.
These mental health issues were already there and we really need to find the route cause as to why we clearly have a very big mental health crisis in our country Covid or not covid.

eaglejulesk · 12/12/2020 19:21

I think they want us to follow China and New Zealand with welding people in to their homes and having the covid concentration camps.

WTF??? No-one in NZ was welded into their homes - and the "covid concentration camps" were hotels. Stop being so hysterical.

Meanwhile, whatever you think, China and NZ are happily going about their business as usual - unlike the UK!!

Teddy1258 · 12/12/2020 19:21

People are shamed for going to shops that are open, for seeing family even if it's their bubble, anything !
I bet a lot of these posters screaming at people to stay at home live with their hubby and kids so doesn't really affect them.

Parker231 · 12/12/2020 19:26

New Zealand is an example of how the pandemic should be managed. I wish the U.K. government had followed the same approach.

MercyBooth · 12/12/2020 19:58

Guilt tripping and emotional blackmail affects mental health.
inews.co.uk/news/health/christmas-gatherings-scientists-safe-government-guidance-792513?utm_source=%3Fito%3Dsocial_itw_theipaper

PinkFondantFancy · 12/12/2020 20:16

New Zealand is a sparsely populated island in the middle of nowhere. I don't know why I keep seeing them discussed as an example, there's no way we could follow their approach. We're a major transport hub on an overpopulated island for starters.

The only news that comes out of china is the news china allows out. Who knows how they're doing really. And anyway if they're genuinely doing well using their awful social credits system and welding people into their homes, fair play to them, still shouldn't copy them

MarshaBradyo · 12/12/2020 20:17

New Zealand is a sparsely populated island in the middle of nowhere. I don't know why I keep seeing them discussed as an example, there's no way we could follow their approach. We're a major transport hub on an overpopulated island for starters.

Yes Plus timing. I have no idea why this is still being brought up either.

PinkFondantFancy · 12/12/2020 20:19

January is an awful month for depression as it is. There's been some years that there's several suicides a week on my trainline to work in Jan and Feb. I am truly afraid for what it's going to do to mental health. @Whattheactual20201 you're not allowed out of your house during isolation, that's the point. Absolutely bonkers in my opinion but there you go.