Secondary schools are stuffed, GOVERNMENT ADMITS

[noblegiraffe]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55265098

Mass testing for secondary school pupils in worst affected areas.

We even get topics from here ending up in the news.

What is the answer though? Should we be back online learning from home? but I am guessing that's not practical for primary age, plus all those children where school is better than home.

My dd is in year 11 I could cry for her, she is stressed and exhausted.

Maybe this is the start?

@MarshaBradyo

Of course they do! In the world of social media readers are constantly moving the narrative. And also responding to it. Look at what has happened to the news over last few decades.

Right, I've just totted up the posts on my school re-opening/infection threads since about September.

11220 posts. Ok, a lot of them will be mine, and quite a few will be 'Noble smells', but to suggest that there's no appetite for discussion or interest in this topic is just incorrect.

If the newspapers aren't getting traction with their stories, it's because they're writing about the wrong things, and badly.

@XmasLlama

Maybe this is the start?

Lewis Goodall asked for teacher experiences on twitter on the 25th November. Why has he been sitting on it?

That's true user.

Lol at Noble smells part

There is a lot of talk on here but this is a concentrated conversation. High proportion of teachers and a few parents agreeing or disagreeing. And a lot of it is just two sides disagreeing. The public mood is not the same as March and people know what’s happening in their school (affected or not).

It’s so incredibly localised. Ok so on the school run we might say gosh we’ve been fortunate - other person - I know so many of my friends have had cases. So people know, it’s not hidden. There’s just not appetite to close or go online.

Social media influencers are a thing marsha.

Hypodermic needle model etc etc,

'Noble smells' has me in hysterics

Today's stats "In the most recent week, the percentage of people testing positive has decreased in older teenagers and young adults, those aged 25 to 34 years and 50 to 69 years. Rates have levelled off for those aged 35 to 49 years in the most recent week. Rates continue to be highest among secondary school-age children. "

But sure, lets test the university students and send them home early but force secondary school students to freely mix with their infected peers for another week before sending them off to see grandma.

Absolute fuckwits the lot of them.

I don’t follow you Piggy on needle part

But yes they are and you know why - because people choose to follow them! Ground up. They each started with zero but offered something people wanted. We create the news and influence we each see - to a very large extent.

This has really changed due to SM. It’s part of the reason some get so entrenched we only see our version.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55263936

This is whats happening in my area. The schools here genuinely thought they would all be closed next week, hence this late letter. My DC were all told not to expect to be in next week, and have done the watching films etc thing this week in anticipation. I honestly don't think anyone can quite believe the stupidity of keeping them open here given the context - lockdown finished last night, our cases are still relatively high. I have always been vocal about wanting schools open when possible as I am screwed without it, but even I could see they needed to close

Noble did you see the article I shared the other day (local to me), schools having mass testing.... instead of isolating contacts??? WTF!

I ran into our new upstairs neighbor. She is recently retired lawyer. And a pianist :)
We had a few chats before, but nothings extra. Today she said, she just heard about sec school age kids not being safe and omg how the numbers are going up.
When I told her that it was in the data and many have been very vocal about sec. schools she was totally surprised.
(I don't know though how she slept through the 26k/day peak, but hey.... )

So, yeah, people are really not aware how not safe schools are.

@TheSunIsStillShining

I ran into our new upstairs neighbor. She is recently retired lawyer. And a pianist :) We had a few chats before, but nothings extra. Today she said, she just heard about sec school age kids not being safe and omg how the numbers are going up. When I told her that it was in the data and many have been very vocal about sec. schools she was totally surprised. (I don't know though how she slept through the 26k/day peak, but hey.... )

So, yeah, people are really not aware how not safe schools are.

Does she have secondary age dc?

Parents may be aware of cases in their local school(s) - though I know in some instances they may think they are but are not being made fully aware.
However neither they nor the general public are being confronted with the inconvenient and uncomfortable reality of crowded classrooms fuggy with the breath of up to 33 unmasked nearly-adult students and with windows that open a crack or not at all. Or of corridors packed to bursting with staff and students jostling shoulder to shoulder to make their way through the building at lesson changeover.

There's been a lot of indoor play recently round here. Lots of time in stuffy classrooms.

No, no kids at all. But she reads multiple newspapers daily. She is -in general- quite aware and knowledgeable about the world. (so no DM reader).

But she recalled having heard that sec schools are safe many times.

Relevant as all the recent info on ventilation is about recognising a stuffy room and not letting it be stuffy to lower risk.

@TheSunIsStillShining

No, no kids at all. But she reads multiple newspapers daily. She is -in general- quite aware and knowledgeable about the world. (so no DM reader).

But she recalled having heard that sec schools are safe many times.

I agree. When I tell people at work, who don’t have secondary school age children, what it’s actual like in schools they have all been surprised. And have said things like “ I read it wasn’t a problem for this age group” or “But they are socially distanced, aren’t they?”

My fav is: But school age kids never get sick or even infected!

The problem is that actually Chris Whitty said this in Aug/Sept!

read it wasn’t a problem for this age group” or “But they are socially distanced, aren’t they?”

They've succumbed to the visual propaganda accompanying every single article on news.

Noble did you see the article I shared the other day (local to me), schools having mass testing.... instead of isolating contacts??? WTF!

No, didn't see this? But tbh I think I would pick regular mass testing over isolating close contacts if I had to pick one of the two. Isolating close contacts only and leaving the rest of the year group to fester is a real issue. I'd prefer a bit of both I think.

@NeurotrashWarrior

There's been a lot of indoor play recently round here. Lots of time in stuffy classrooms.

At our school, the year 6 children are being kept inside at lunch to do catch up with homework, incompleted work etc instead of being allowed out to play after they've eaten. I assume to catch up for the stats.

@TheSunIsStillShining

No, no kids at all. But she reads multiple newspapers daily. She is -in general- quite aware and knowledgeable about the world. (so no DM reader).

But she recalled having heard that sec schools are safe many times.

I think that lots of people on here think that everyone knows that schools are screwed because it is being discussed here all the time (and someone has put some rather eye-catching thread titles in active for them to look at).

They don't realise how little it is being discussed in the wider media.