How many people are getting the vaccine each day?

[Keepgoing88]

Basically, what the title says. I have not seen any data on roughly how many people are getting vaccinated a day at the moment and I’m surprised as I thought that a lot of people would be wanting to know the answer to this. I can’t imagine it is a massive number as they have just started but just wondered have I missed anything or does anyone know anywhere where they have the numbers?

@notevenat20

Are those in care homes booked in for next week?

Not where I am. We’ve not even had staff vaccinated let alone word of when residents will be vaccinated. As I’ve previously said, we have to go to hospital for our vaccine and our residents will be vaccinated in house. Our council is in charge of the logistics and there is no word of when either will happen.

Meanwhile my BIL who is 50, a hospital cleaner on non Covid wards and not high risk has been vaccinated today. Not entirely sure why he’s been prioritised if we go by the official criteria.

We are mainly getting pressure piled on about allowing visitors, lamp testing training and still being pressured to take Covid positive new residents. No mention of safeguarding our residents with the vaccine. It’s a disgrace.

I don't know. But there are 800k of the Pfizer one. It's a 2 jab vax so will do 400k people assuming it's been kept at the correct temp. through the supply chain.
I hope any vaxs are not stuck in the port containers. How would the NHS staff know whether a vax had been kept at optimum level anyway?

I had mine today (NHS staff) I asked out of interest how many they're doing a day - she said about 100-150 staff members a day currently, they have a set list of appointments for local nursing home staff per day and then depending on how many of those appointments are getting used they are filling the left over slots at short notice with hospital staff who have registered an interest. For example I got a call of my unit manager at 9am asking if I could go in for either 10am or 5pm for my jab becuase there were spaces to fill.

No idea how many patients they're doing daily however.

It’s a bit sad if they are really vaccinating nhs staff mostly. All vaccinations are great but it’s not going to save thousands of lives unless it means that all the NHS clinics will start running at full capacity.

@sushinelove

Where can you find this number? It looks helpful.

@notevenat20

It’s a bit sad if they are really vaccinating nhs staff mostly. All vaccinations are great but it’s not going to save thousands of lives unless it means that all the NHS clinics will start running at full capacity.

I think how many lives it saves will very much depend on the impact the vaccine turns out to have on spread.

@notevenat20

Nicola Sturgeon said it in her update briefing - talks about it here at 12:27 and 12:47 updates

www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/coronavirus-scotland-live-nicola-sturgeon-19430607

Nhs staff doing AGPs on COVID +ve patients. Got an email last night saying the vaccine was going to 80+, and a small number of ECV staff who would be contacted. It does seem to vary hugely on whether you’re in a hub or not.

Since thousands of people have caught Covid in hospital I think vaccinating staff is really important

“An Aerosol Generating Procedure (AGP) is a medical procedure that can result in the release of airborne particles (aerosols) from the respiratory tract when treating someone who is suspected or known to be suffering from an infectious agent transmitted wholly or partly by the airborne or droplet route.”

For those who are acronym intolerant :)

Since thousands of people have caught Covid in hospital I think vaccinating staff is really important

Sure it’s important. But we could save 20,000 lives just be vaccinating the half million care home residents. They are also dying alone and lonely at the moment.

Thanks @lurker101 . They need a website :)

I’ve had a text from my doctor to say they’ll contact me soon for when I can be vaccinated. I’ve no idea Why. I’m under 50, no health conditions, haven’t seen a doctor in years and haven’t had any sort of vaccine for well over 45 years. I’m assuming sent by mistake.

@Tinselandbaubauls

I’ve had a text from my doctor to say they’ll contact me soon for when I can be vaccinated. I’ve no idea Why. I’m under 50, no health conditions, haven’t seen a doctor in years and haven’t had any sort of vaccine for well over 45 years. I’m assuming sent by mistake.

My friend and her husband have had phone calls yesterday too, both 50 and fit as fiddles, asked do they want it so they can be put on a list. Meanwhile nothing again for our nurseling home!

@Tinselandbaubauls unless it was personalised I imagine it was a text to all at the surgery to stop people calling to ask when they will get it/what they need to do to be on the list etc.

My friend and her husband have had phone calls yesterday too, both 50 and fit as fiddles, asked do they want it so they can be put on a list. Meanwhile nothing again for our nurseling home!

I suspect that they doing the ones that are easy to do. At some point the govt will make the NHS go to care homes, hopefully soon.

@Thatwentbadly

I suspect it’s a bit slower today as anyone vaccinated today will need to be revaccinated on the 31st December.

That's not correct. People don't need to be vaccinated on this exact day. On this date or after is the guidance. Obviously you wouldn't wait months and months. But they are not restricted to exactly 3 weeks after 1st dose.

@notevenat20

My friend and her husband have had phone calls yesterday too, both 50 and fit as fiddles, asked do they want it so they can be put on a list. Meanwhile nothing again for our nurseling home!

I suspect that they doing the ones that are easy to do. At some point the govt will make the NHS go to care homes, hopefully soon.

It does seem like instead of going with the priority list, when it’s got to a local level LAs and the NHS hubs have just been doing what they feel like.

We knew it was most likely impossible for the Pfizer jab to go to residents this week due to the refrigeration issues but there is zero excuse for the plans to vaccinate health and social care staff to have not gone ahead as we were supposed to attend our hubs for the vac. We’ve all been waiting by the phone. It’s been such a worry having kids at school and nursery and thinking we might take it into the homes. I also can’t understand why my nail technician friend and her hotel manager, totally healthy husband have been invited for jabs before my CEV parents in their 70s who are regularly being seen at the hub hospital and the GPs anyway and who have had to shield since March .

Good point @notevenat20 I’ve heard that they’re trying to vaccinate nhs staff etc. When they’ve got vaccines to “use up” out of a batch after they’ve dealt with patients, so it may be they’re starting to try to build up a list of “easily mobile” people that can be called if they get to the point where they have vaccines available and “needing used” and no one from the vulnerable categories able to utilise the. Very easy to have admin staff ring through a list of 50 people to get people in at short notice, rather than them go in the bin because they can’t get to a care home/get vulnerable people in as easily

@lurker101

Good point *@notevenat20* I’ve heard that they’re trying to vaccinate nhs staff etc. When they’ve got vaccines to “use up” out of a batch after they’ve dealt with patients, so it may be they’re starting to try to build up a list of “easily mobile” people that can be called if they get to the point where they have vaccines available and “needing used” and no one from the vulnerable categories able to utilise the. Very easy to have admin staff ring through a list of 50 people to get people in at short notice, rather than them go in the bin because they can’t get to a care home/get vulnerable people in as easily

But in that case, why not ring the care homes and see if any of our staff can come in and get vaccinated? Or give it to the older people who already have appointments that day as often happens with the flu jab?

Sorry if I’m tetchy. It’s just been awful all year dealing with outbreaks and losing residents and then hearing that people who aren’t at risk and who pose little risk have been offered it already while we’ve been forgotten yet again seems quite unfair.

Thanks for that link, @CoffeeandCroissant.

20 vaccinations to prevent one death among cate home residents, wow! Get jabbing ASAP.

For “the rest”, i.e. under 50’s without medical issues which make them more vulnerable, it takes 47,000 vaccinations to prevent 1 death. That’s an important figure to have in mind if and when very rare side effects to eventually emerge. If the risk of those was, say 1 in 500,000, it would still make sense for people on that group to be vaccinated, as the risk of the vaccine would be an order of magnitude than the risk of the disease.

@ProudAuntie76 I hope they’re doing that in tandem, and that’s something that’s easier to do without individual contacts - you would hope GPs/healthcare trusts have contact details of all care homes, and can call if they have spare capacity quite easily, I hope this is just for overspill a few weeks from now, and that they would contact care homes etc. And then John and Mary smith that are on their “list” etc. Until the “overstock” is gone.
For example bbc had a story about care home staff in NI who have been vaccinated this week. I think it’s probably part of wider planning to make sure they’re “ready” and not wasting time when vaccines are available.

I can imagine it's very hard to say no to your direct friends and colleagues who work in the NHS and you can excuse it by saying that it was too difficult to follow the priority list that day. The story of the nail technician friend and her hotel manager is a total mystery though!

I really really would like them to phone up the care homes and ask which staff or residents could make it the vaccination points.

Yes I don’t understand that either, I’m thinking they may have misunderstood, and got a rather generic notification/advised they’re on “the list” but have not actually got an appointment, unless there are other health issues that we/pp are not aware of that puts them in a higher up category

We were asked on Monday to compile lists and consent forms for the vaccine and to be ready this week to go to be vaccinated at the hub. We did everything we were supposed to. It’s not a case of GPS needing to get lists of Care Homes, it’s all coordinated between the Hospital Hub and the Local Authority that funds us with the LA having the main authority. These plans were first put in place in the summer and should have been easier to implement.
I’m just quite horrified that not a single local nursing or care home has had its staff done this week...but people who are not vulnerable are already booked in or have been vaccinated (like BIL who cleans but not on Covid wards).