Are most people not bothering to isolate when instructed to?

[Mallowmarshmallow]

Our primary bubble was informed to isolate on Saturday afternoon including my eldest DC due to a case in the year group.

The child who tested positive has been seen playing at the park and parents have been seen in shops.

Meanwhile, the other 49 children in the year are supposed to be isolating at home, we are following the rules.

Local secondary school has totally closed with cases in every year and certain year groups are isolating including two children on our street who can be seen out walking/riding/playing with friends every day.

Feeling like a bit of a mug to be following the rules if nobody else is bothering....

I wouldn’t feel like a mug I’d feel like reporting them!

I'd report them.

I’d have no hesitation in reporting either and would also let the school know.

Isolation is there for a reason. The selfishness of some is beyond me.

Its a nonsense. One of mine has had to isolate 3 times now because of someone in the bubble being tested positive.

We live in the tiniest cramped flat and so do most people round here.

This isolation business is no more than house arrest. I get it if you are actually I’ll but not otherwise. It’s 14 days long!

We started off doing it properly but have given up now. Mental health can’t take this over and over again.

‘This isolation business is no more than house arrest. I get it if you are actually I’ll but not otherwise. It’s 14 days long!‘

Asymptomatic spread. It doesn’t make a difference if you are showing symptoms or not. If you are positive you can spread it - symptoms or not.

Totally understand that 14 days in a flat with no outdoor space with kids would be bloody awful. But it’s temporary- death is final and for some people Covid will lead to their untimely death.

OP. So depressed to hear that!! No wonder rates are rising so fast. I’d report. That behaviour is awful.

I don't report people for general rule breaking (unless they really take the piss but I've not yet found a situation that I've reported) but I'm afraid I cannot abide the selfishness of people being out and about when they're supposed to be isolating. Particularly the parents who live with the child, for goodness sake.

It is so selfish, and could actually kill people.

I've only had 1 dc isolate once, he stuck to it without any fuss, however pupils in his class who live in the same street were playing out whilst they was supposed isolating, their parents later went on Facebook to slam the selfish acts of others because when we got put into tier 3 restrictions

My eldest has done two periods of self isolation and we've followed the rules - he didn't step outside our garden until the date given by track and trace. Yes it's a pain, but a necessary evil.

People have clocked that the whole isolation thing is nonsense with no logic or science behind it -just a sop to make people think there is a plan.
None of the rules - six people /support bubbles/masks etc make sense.
Many people had it before it was even properly recognised and with minor or no symptoms. 60% of the deaths were in people over 80 who were already ill with donating that was going to kill them, That category will be vaccinated on the first two tranches. The risk to everyone else is minimal. So hats off to those parents who are not putting their DC under house-arrest.

@Susanwouldntlikeit but this child in question has actually tested positive not just isolating as a close contact!

We received an email on Sunday night stating my son (and his whole class) have to isolate for 10 days due to a pupil testing positive.

Three parents have since posted on the class whatsapp group stating that they are not making their child isolate.

Its a pain in the arse, no one wants to do it, but you just have to suck it up and get on with it.

We had to self isolate for 14 days in early lockdown as my son had a cough, we live in a flat, so apart from sitting on the balcony or taking the bin bags down we didn’t go outside until our isolation was over. It was also when you couldn’t get on ocados website, so I couldn’t change my shopping order so the delivery guy brought me £50 of lager, so there was a small silver lining.

@Susanwouldntlikeit

Appalling post and I'm for evaluating personal risk. But these are confirmed cases going out and about like nothings changed let alone they have a communicable virus. Disposable behaviour and hideously uneducated post from you.

I am surprised that school told you who tested positive. That seems like confidential information. If my child tests positive, I won't be chuffed about school telling random other parents.

Even if school closed, does that mean EVERY child in EVERY year was exposed? Although I have kids in 2 different schools I don't know any specific info about specific people who tested positive at those schools or the many schools closer to home.

I can't answer questions about 'most people' when I have no info about anyone except the people inside my house.

My BIL and family are taking two children who will be 7 days into a 14 day isolation on holiday (long haul flight) at the weekend. They seem to think that because the children had negative tests it’s fine. 😡

I got a call from our Proncipal yesterday morning, asking me to collect DS as the first positive case at the school is in his class. His last exposure was on the 3rd, so his whole class (and everyone on the school bus that child uses) has to isolate until the 17th. School finished for Christmas that day anyway.
As part of our measures (Alberta, Canada) he has online schooling for a week after the break, so he’s not actually back in the classroom until 18 January.

Dd is isolating at the minute and she has indeed been staying in the whole time. Tbf, she has had home learning to do via video call with the teacher, so even if we wanted to break the rules, I don't see how she would be able to.

But, because dd was off school for two days (also tested for covid, which was negative), for the last days when the child who has it was at school, she gets to go out two days earlier. I confirmed this with 119, as school wouldn't advise on an individual basis. So if anyone sees us out for a walk two days earlier than other kids in her year get to go out and reports us... well, you're wrong actually, busy body. So jog on.

As to your general question, I think all the families we know have stuck to it, including key worker families etc.

My ds’s school have decided to send home the entire yr group of over 200 kids after 1 case (I suspect there is more going behind the scenes though). They said in the email they all should isolate and work from home instead but there’s a very high chance my ds was not a close contract and knows nothing about who has it so yeah, I’m going to take isolation with a pinch of salt. Not take the piss and going for days out but if I want to go for a walk I will do.

I’d be surprised if you really know who was positive though. I work in a school and as staff, we aren’t even privileged to know who tested positive or even what class they are from. That’s for slt only

Also surprised anyone knows who it was that was positive. I have no idea whatsoever. It could even be a teacher for all I know.

I would be really interested to know how many children who have been told to isolate due to a positive case in their class actually developed symptoms and tested positive within the 14 day isolation period

Yea we are following the isolation rules. When DD bubble closed due to close contact she stayed inside for the required time.

I have however, deleted the NHS app.

The reason being that I know I will not be within 2 metres of someone for 15 minutes plus. I WFH, I don't go to supermarkets etc. I don't want to be told to isolate due to someone in the house next door testing positive. That had happened.

I'm only seeing family members for walks (so low risk) and if they tested positive they would tell me themselves.

*has happened (to someone else)

@Havana7

I would be really interested to know how many children who have been told to isolate due to a positive case in their class actually developed symptoms and tested positive within the 14 day isolation period

I think the issue is that people can be asymptomatic.

I don't necessarily disagree with the 14 day isolation period, but I will be seriously miffed if we get reported by some nosey twat for bringing our dd out when I went to the trouble of speaking to the school who directed me to the GP (wrongly) who then directed me to a helpline who confirmed dd only had to wait 14 days from HER last contact with the bubble. Not the arbitrary 14 days since the person was last in school, which in our case are slightly different.

This is the danger of "oh I heard Olivia was at the park today"..."REPORT!!!"

How much longer is it feasible for the government to keep the 14 day isolation for a whole bubble rule in place, considering they're adamant exams will go ahead in England after Easter?

I think the isolation period should at least be reduced to 10 days, if not 7.

Everyone I know has followed the rules, but there’s always that odd numpty that doesn’t bother.
I’d report them.

Ah brilliant. Now I'm scared to let dd out tomorrow, even though she is allowed. For fucks sake.