Are most people not bothering to isolate when instructed to?

[Mallowmarshmallow]

Our primary bubble was informed to isolate on Saturday afternoon including my eldest DC due to a case in the year group.

The child who tested positive has been seen playing at the park and parents have been seen in shops.

Meanwhile, the other 49 children in the year are supposed to be isolating at home, we are following the rules.

Local secondary school has totally closed with cases in every year and certain year groups are isolating including two children on our street who can be seen out walking/riding/playing with friends every day.

Feeling like a bit of a mug to be following the rules if nobody else is bothering....

We had a year group off the local secondary school because so many teachers were isolating that there wasn't enough staff in school to make it work. Those children were free to go out. I'd double check this wasn't the situation before I acted on misinformation.

When i see school age kids our abs about during school hours, in shops and public places. It drives me mad. Be a bit discreet about it ffs

@lemonsquashie

When i see school age kids our abs about during school hours, in shops and public places. It drives me mad. Be a bit discreet about it ffs

What about children in my dd's position? Or as a pp mentioned, where they had to close the year group but none of the children had to isolate? Or how about children who are full time home schooled?

That's really shit if the family who treated positive aren't isolating and have caused the whole class or Year group to need to isolate. I read that only 20% of positive cases fully isolate.

The US has just reduced the time recommended to isolate and I think we should have done that long ago with asymptomatic people. Especially young people. Isn't there a correlation with age and days of incubation period. The younger you are the less time yo incubate it for.

Wow some people on here today are completely disgraceful.
I tested positive 10 days into my isolation from the first person in my class testing positive.
I was one of 5 more cases to test positive in that week.

Susanwouldntlikeit

People have clocked that the whole isolation thing is nonsense with no logic or science behind it -just a sop to make people think there is a plan.
None of the rules - six people /support bubbles/masks etc make sense.
Many people had it before it was even properly recognised and with minor or no symptoms. 60% of the deaths were in people over 80 who were already ill with donating that was going to kill them, That category will be vaccinated on the first two tranches. The risk to everyone else is minimal. So hats off to those parents who are not putting their DC under house-arrest.

And you claim to be a teacher , really ??

Teachers can think for themselves @starrynight19

They are capable of critical thinking.

Sorry perhaps I should have worded that as ‘some teachers’ @starrynight19

Maybe you are one of the teachers who is not so capable of critical thinking.

Teachers can think for themselves @starrynight19**

They are capable of critical thinking.

Yes I’m very aware of that Nellee thankfully I don’t work with a single one who thinks the way you and susan do and would wilfully go around putting other people in danger. Let’s hope no one gets seriously ill from both of your selfish behaviour.

Everybody I know who has been told to isolate has done so. Why would you assume "most" people don't bother based on such a small sample size?

When my ds isolated as a contact we found out who it was because the kids talk to each other

Op lots of people are isolating. It’s hard when you see or hear some people not doing and selfishly spreading this virus around. Those are probably the people who want the end to all of these restrictions as well ironically. But your not alone. My dd has done it four times now and has found it incredibly hard but she understands it’s not just about her.

When all of this is over, god willing soon, I will know we did the right thing. Not sure others will be able to say the same!

Thing is, people who don't care about the rules are also far more likely to catch covid, and then also not care about the rules when positive.

Here most people seem to be isolating at least for the first week and not socialising later, but maybe going for a walk alone. I had to isolate once, alone with 3 small DCs and it was a nightmare so do have sympathy but also think that it's worse if I make others in the school sick - and unlike pps said, the gossip mill in our school, despite being a 4 form entry London one, is enough that we know who's tested positive.

@Nellee surely no matter what your thoughts on whether the illness justifies the restrictions, you see that if a child was positive and then goes out and spreads it at the park, even if all the children don't suffer badly with it, it can still mean lots of bubbles shut down, parents forced to lose work and money to manage it, children losing education - that's hardly worth it either. How does defying those rules help anyone?

To be clear, the school didn't disclose details, the mother of the child told another mother who has then proceeded to spread the news for her. The isolation period also coincides with the last time the child was in school so stacks up.

The person who had the virus is probably out of their isolation period. We all tested positive and year group closed... they still have another 4 days of isolation but we are out of the isolation period according to nhs app so we can go to park and shop in theory.

We are in day 2 of isolation - whole school shut but am already hearing of people going out with their kids. I can sleep at night knowing l am doing the right thing.

@GlassLake, we have been isolating since Saturday afternoon, the kid tested positive on Friday. Family was in the shops on Saturday night and kid was out playing football on Sunday.

@OverTheRubicon I thought this thread was about those in a bubble isolating because someone in that bubble had tested positive.

I don’t agree with a Covid positive person breaking isolation. But still would not report them. I think that reporting is a dirty thing to do.

Forcing 30 kids to be locked inside for 14 days is not only child abuse but also a waste of time.

If someone has symptoms- test them and then isolate if positive.

So many of us will unknowingly be positive and asymptomatic. Are we all isolating? No we are not.

I don’t agree with a Covid positive person breaking isolation
But any one of those 30 children being asked to isolate could be potentially positive as well ? @Nellee

[quote Nellee]@OverTheRubicon I thought this thread was about those in a bubble isolating because someone in that bubble had tested positive.

I don’t agree with a Covid positive person breaking isolation. But still would not report them. I think that reporting is a dirty thing to do.

Forcing 30 kids to be locked inside for 14 days is not only child abuse but also a waste of time.

If someone has symptoms- test them and then isolate if positive.

So many of us will unknowingly be positive and asymptomatic. Are we all isolating? No we are not.[/quote]
It's literally the second paragraph of the OP.

The child who tested positive has been seen playing at the park and parents have been seen in shops

That's an unusual miss for a teacher.

Why do you think I’m a teacher? I’m not, thankfully.

But any one of those 30 children being asked to isolate could be potentially positive as well

We’re all potentially positive Starry.

We knew which child was positive as the mum told us on the class whatsapp group. With my older kids we knew who because they all tell each other on thei Snapchat atories

I'm surprised people don't know who it is that's tested positive tbh. I'm a teacher and the kids tell me before the office does at my secondary school. Because the child who tests positive tells their friends, who then tell their friends, and within an hour it's common knowledge.

At dd's primary school they have pretty good attendance normally. We're alerted every time someone goes for a test (all have been negative so far), and dd tells me which kids have been absent and speculates about whether they needed a test or not. She's year 6 so a lot of them have phones and/or Roblox accounts so they talk to each other virtually. Dd is checking up on an absent friend most weeks, just a text/message/facetime to see if they're ok and will they be back at school the next day.

Children/teenagers gossip amongst themselves a LOT!! They usually know what's going on with their peers way before the adults do. It's different with younger children, but by late primary there are a lot of them who have some form of electronic communication with each other, even if they are using a parent's phone.