Has lockdown really worked? 66 new cases this week in son's school- post lockdown (in lowish infection area)!

[Annie1919]

We are in tier 2 and school is taking all govt recommended measures yet still had 66 positive test results this week! (throughout every year group). DD's football also cancelled this week due to another positive case (not linked to school and from surrounding borough). Seems to me cases are soaring!?

Incidentally, my school surveyed parents and governors about closing early and going online for the last week of term and the answer was a resounding no. School had to stay open.

Yet here we are with only one year group left in school and all other year groups isolating until the last official day of term anyway. I give that last year group a day or two at best.

In my area we have over 500 cases per 100,000.

And why exactly are you not working on a Sunday? tsk tsk.

Lazy, workshy, not really a teacher but working for a union so posting is my actual job etc etc.

@DBML

Incidentally, my school surveyed parents and governors about closing early and going online for the last week of term and the answer was a resounding no. School had to stay open.

Yet here we are with only one year group left in school and all other year groups isolating until the last official day of term anyway. I give that last year group a day or two at best.

In my area we have over 500 cases per 100,000.

I am really glad they did this, I suggested it elsewhere and was told schools weren't allowed which seems so daft to me. I don't see the point in a teacher having to be in if the majority of the DC are at home? I bet lots of yours said no but in the end will keep the DC off anyway when they realise they may end up isolating over Christmas.

(I am referring more to secondary, as childcare isn't really an issue then)

I bet lots of yours said no but in the end will keep the DC off anyway when they realise they may end up isolating over Christmas.

Rumours are the DfE are saying no remote work to be provided to families keeping children off school for this reason.

The whole year group in my daughters school has to isolate. They've had one positive case in Year 9 since they went back in September, that was two weeks ago. Something must be going wrong with the social distancing to have that many cases?

In my child’s secondary school everything was fine, no closures, sending home from school etc. Then we had a new head start after half term and it is constant emails to parents about year groups being sent home due to a positive Sars Cov 2 test result.
My child is about to start week 3 of live school home learning.

@DumpedByText

The whole year group in my daughters school has to isolate. They've had one positive case in Year 9 since they went back in September, that was two weeks ago. Something must be going wrong with the social distancing to have that many cases?

Could perhaps be a super spreader event? Some people are supposed to spread it much more easily and quickly than others and can be responsible for infecting a great number of people. That's not to say it doesn't spread normally among the rest of us but some people shed a much higher amount of the virus than others, which is thought to be the cause of very rapid outbreaks.

My ds secondary have given us the option of live lessons at home or come to school as normal for the last week of term. I think this is a positive way forward and shame it’s not the common approach. Those who can/are able to work from home can and those who can’t are still better protected as there are less people in school.

I bet lots of yours said no but in the end will keep the DC off anyway when they realise they may end up isolating over Christmas.

Nope, will be in if school /class is open. I'm working till the 24th so unlikely to be of any benefit.

Something must be going wrong with the social distancing to have that many cases?

What social distancing?

That’s a crazy amount! Is that confirmed cases, single households or sibling and parents?

We have a few schools locally that have had outbreaks that are classed as bad and school shutting years etc but no where near that amount...somethings seems very wrong if the school has that many

@DumpedByText

The whole year group in my daughters school has to isolate. They've had one positive case in Year 9 since they went back in September, that was two weeks ago. Something must be going wrong with the social distancing to have that many cases?

My understanding is that social distancing is NOT possible in a classroom packed with 30 chn and staff. No schools can social distance, that is why they have created bubbles! That is the whole problem!

@CKBJ

My ds secondary have given us the option of live lessons at home or come to school as normal for the last week of term. I think this is a positive way forward and shame it’s not the common approach. Those who can/are able to work from home can and those who can’t are still better protected as there are less people in school.

How do they organise it? Is it live classes at the same time as in-school is happening?

Ie from classroom

@RosePetalss

That’s a crazy amount! Is that confirmed cases, single households or sibling and parents?

We have a few schools locally that have had outbreaks that are classed as bad and school shutting years etc but no where near that amount...somethings seems very wrong if the school has that many

Yes, confirmed cases. No idea about siblings etc. The head sends out a weekly update- he is being very transparent about it all. It is a very good school and they introduced mandatory face masks (in communal areas) from day one in September. They are following all Govt guidance and PHE directions. Unfortunately, I feel this could happen in any secondary. It has literally come from nowhere and happened very suddenly.

Why aren't teachers experts on educational matters? Why the need for sarcastic speechmarks?

I don't think this is an unusual number, unfortunately. We are tier 2. DH's school had 50+ positive cases amongst students last week. School has now had to close to all pupils. Previously had only been isolating those sitting within 2m after having received a rap on the knuckles from the DfE for closing a whole year group when there were 4 cases within the bubble. Obviously it's better to just let it run rampant then have to close all the year groups 🙄.

A school near me was chosen to have mass testing due to their high numbers of cases.
At 30 positive tests they stopped counting and closed the school.

@IfoundGavin

Why aren't teachers experts on educational matters? Why the need for sarcastic speechmarks?

Last time I checked education was an entirely different discipline to epidemiology.

Maths teachers can read a graph though. Unlike some.

@noblegiraffe

Maths teachers can read a graph though. Unlike some.

PMSL

Indeed mrsmiggins. Plenty of armchair virologists and epidemiologists on MN, mind.

Teachers are, however, experts on education and the impact of covid in schools.

On many other threads , people are opining that school leadership teams should be making public health decisions.

@IfoundGavin

Indeed mrsmiggins. Plenty of armchair virologists and epidemiologists on MN, mind.

Teachers are, however, experts on education and the impact of covid in schools.

On many other threads , people are opining that school leadership teams should be making public health decisions.

Oh yes I've met a few of those armchair epidemiologists, that's part of the problem.

Those who don’t think that secondary schools are transmitting the virus within schools and the main issue lies outside of school need to explain the half term dip in infection rates in that age group when schools were closed but pupils were socialising (no lockdown).

@lavenderlou

I don't think this is an unusual number, unfortunately. We are tier 2. DH's school had 50+ positive cases amongst students last week. School has now had to close to all pupils. Previously had only been isolating those sitting within 2m after having received a rap on the knuckles from the DfE for closing a whole year group when there were 4 cases within the bubble. Obviously it's better to just let it run rampant then have to close all the year groups 🙄.

There is a massive variation in numbers. This needs to be looked into further and whether it is just luck, design or if there is some "good practice" that can be shared.

DC's school has had 12 pupil cases since November 7th, is it the fact it is a new school (larger spaces), less pupils using public transport, or just pure luck. We are tier 3, pretty high rates, so not just a backdrop of low numbers.

@noblegiraffe

Those who don’t think that secondary schools are transmitting the virus within schools and the main issue lies outside of school need to explain the half term dip in infection rates in that age group when schools were closed but pupils were socialising (no lockdown).

Well, obviously its not because the schools were closed, but because they weren't walking to school with each other at that point. It's the walking to school that gets them, silly.