Can I travel to a Tier 2 area?

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We have tickets booked at the weekend for a winter wonderland, it’s all outdoors.

It’s in a tier 2 area but I’m in tier 3.

Are we allowed to go? It’s all outdoors no indoors.

No

No you aren't.

Yes you are. You are 'advised' not too, but you legally can.

My neighbour's house nextdoor (tier 3) is his weekend home and he lives in London (tier 2). He is planning on coming and going as he pleases. It's not illegal but not advised.

www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-2-high-alert#travelling-out-of-a-tier-2-area

Travelling out of a Tier 2 area
If you live in a Tier 2 area, you must continue to follow Tier 2 rules when you travel to a Tier 1 area.

However, avoid travel to or overnight stays in Tier 3 areas other than where necessary, such as:

for work
for education
to access voluntary, charitable or youth services
to visit your support bubble
to receive medical treatment
for moving home
because of caring responsibilities
You can travel through a Tier 3 area as a part of a longer journey.

On Gov.uk, it says for Tier 3 "avoid travelling outside of your area" (unless for work, education, medical, care). So, while it may not actually be illegal, the regulations are clear that they do not want people travelling between tiers just to visit amenities etc.

You can go anywhere outdoors as a household.

You can. People saying you can't are wrong. Whether you should or not is another matter but legally you absolutely can.

Your not supposed to but people will and they are. Personally I think if what your going to is an outside event, a one off such as your suggesting and no symptoms from any of you then go and enjoy yourselves but be sure to distance and insist others around you also distance from you.

A lot of people are rubbish at the 2 meter thing!

When going to an area in another tier you must continue to follow the tier 3 rules. So you cannot travel from a tier 3 area to a tier 2/1 to do things which are not allowed in tier 3.

This is directly from the guidelines:

If you live in a Tier 3 area, you must continue to follow Tier 3 rules when you travel to a Tier 1 or Tier 2 area. You must not stay with anyone you do not live with elsewhere in the UK or visit their home (unless you share a support bubble).

www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-3-very-high-alert#travel in the "travelling in to or out of a tier 3 area".

Yes. The legislation does not mention travel.

The info quoted above is guidance not law or “rules”. It doesn’t tell you what you’re allowed to do or not do.

The legislation is here: www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/made.

I don't understand the need for 'advice', if they don't want people to so something, put it in the legislation.

Yes you’re allowed. Enjoy yourselves when you go

No person living in the Tier 3 area may participate in a gathering outside that area which ... takes place outdoors ... and consists of more than six people

So clearly you’re allowed to travel outside tier 3, in order to participate in a gathering in a public place of 6 people

Also, if you live in tier 3 you can’t gather in private gardens or indoor places outside tier 3, except with your household.

Police are stopping people

Quote from article

Superintendent Mike Walker said: "I realise there may be some confusion over what is deemed necessary in these circumstances, so I’d like to be clear here: it is neither necessary or acceptable to leave a Tier 3 area and enter a lower tier area for a day trip or to visit a pub or restaurant for a meal.

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/drivers-lancashire-yorkshire-border-being-19394412

No

I am travelling alone from a Tier 3 area to Tier 1 Saturday,staying in Hotel overnight.Police in the area I am visiting have stated it’s permissible,just to follow social distancing,wear mask,wash hands etc.

I believe the whole Tiers thing is complete madness anyway.I live in a Tier 3 area with very few Covid cases.Our MP voted for the Tiers and has been annihilated for doing so.

Hmm pretty mixed answers here!

@QueenPaws,here we go again,it is NOT against the law,how come the Police where I am visiting have posted on their Facebook Page what I wrote in my previous post!

My husband travels from our tier 3 area into a tier 2 area everyday for work. Our tier 3 area has roughly half the number of cases the tier 2 area where his office is.

@OrigamiPenguinArmy

My husband travels from our tier 3 area into a tier 2 area everyday for work. Our tier 3 area has roughly half the number of cases the tier 2 area where his office is.

Work is on the list of ok things to do between tiers.

Presuming you are in England? I know in Scotland we have 'levels' but everyone calls them tiers so it's hard to know. If you are in a Scottish level/tier 3 then you are not allowed.

Work is on the list of ok things to do between tiers

I didn’t make my point very well. What I meant was the tiers only make sense if you live somewhere with significantly higher levels to the place you’re travelling too. I’m one of those “lucky” people in Kent who is stuck in a tier 3 area with half the number of cases in most tier 2 areas.

In our wider area a softplay has decided to encourage vistors from tier 3. Which is crazy. Soft play isnt open in tier 3.

Are you going to have to go inside to use toilets?

Would your event be running in tier 3?
According to the rules (not law) then no you shouldn't leave the area for leisure.

@Keepdistance

In our wider area a softplay has decided to encourage vistors from tier 3. Which is crazy. Soft play isnt open in tier 3.

Are you going to have to go inside to use toilets?

Would your event be running in tier 3?
According to the rules (not law) then no you shouldn't leave the area for leisure.

@Keepdistance

Erm not sure about toilets.

It’s an outdoor park that’s been made into a winter wonderland.