Can I travel to a Tier 2 area?

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We have tickets booked at the weekend for a winter wonderland, it’s all outdoors.

It’s in a tier 2 area but I’m in tier 3.

Are we allowed to go? It’s all outdoors no indoors.

@480Widdio I'm just pointing out they are stopping people, not whether it's law or I agree with it!
There's a lot of reports of it, also stopping people between north and West Yorkshire

The police shouldn't be stopping people but perhaps they've got nothing better to do up there, who knows

I'd be so mad if I had to talk to a police officer at the window of my car. As we're not mixing at all during our move between tiers, the police stop would be the biggest Covid risk of the whole thing!

,here we go again,it is NOT against the law,how come the Police where I am visiting have posted on their Facebook Page what I wrote in my previous post!

Presumably because they are ill-informed? It is not illegal to travel about England, regardless of which tier you live in, however wherever you are, your 'home' tier legislation applies. If you are on the road, you must obey any police instructions, but that is nothing to do with Covid and is well established by existing laws.
After that, if anyone was to receive a fixed-penalty under the "The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (All Tiers) (England) Regulations 2020" for travelling, don't pay it, the CPS will not take it to Court as it is not unlawful.

It's not a legal requirement, it's advisory. So I guess the police can stop and advise you?! But presumably they can't fine you or tell you to go back home. But they might advise you to go back home

There's one of these near me. Lightopia, the local paper says the organisers have issued a warning for anyone living outside of greater Manchester advising them not to attend because of tier 3 restrictions.
No clue if/how they're going to police this though.

The police in North Yorkshire are also massively overstepping the bounds of their authority by organising roadblocks and stopping people to offer “advice”. A lot of people will be scared and intimidated and I’m really cross that they’re doing this instead of what we pay them to do.

I live right on the boundary of Tier 2 and Tier 3, just inside Tier 3. Our local supermarket is in tier 2, it's not possible to go for a run along roads with streetlights without going into Tier 2, my husband works in different counties in Tier 2 every day. I'd be very amused if the police tried to stop us doing our grocery shopping or going for a run (not that they will because it is just guidance)

You are not restrained by law from travelling.

But you are meant to live by your tier restriction wherever you are - are you, like ferretface right on a border and this attraction within a few hundred yards?

I think this is one of the circumstances where the law of "Don't be a dick" applies

We are 3 miles from the boundary in tier 3 and are going for dinner tomorrow night, checked with the pub, they have no problem! Our rate is lower than London, Liverpool etc and everyone is mad including the mp

Morally no. Legally yes

@OrigamiPenguinArmy Us too. In fact according to the Zoe app (Can anyone tell me how accurate this app is?) our levels are plummeting and now many areas between us and London, plus areas in London have far more cases than we do. Its such a bizarre situation, we're going to lose many businesses in areas that have low numbers which must be so painful for the families involved (anyone losing a business, its an awful situation, but being low numbers in a high tier is such a kick in the teeth if you might have had a chance)

Whats confusing me, if you need to travel to a tier 2 for work purposes can you stop for food? Or should you take a picnic. (as in tier 3 you can't eat out at a restaurant )

Is advisory not to not mandatory so you can go.
Yes North Yorkshire Police were stopping cars but have no legal grounds to do so, they will be told to desist soon I expect

@JellyBabiesSaveLives

The police in North Yorkshire are also massively overstepping the bounds of their authority by organising roadblocks and stopping people to offer “advice”. A lot of people will be scared and intimidated and I’m really cross that they’re doing this instead of what we pay them to do.

This. If you are stopped obviously be polite, listen to their guidance....then carry on with your day. This is a time where knowing your rights is extremely important

In fact according to the Zoe app (Can anyone tell me how accurate this app is?) our levels are plummeting and now many areas between us and London, plus areas in London have far more cases than we do

Thank fucking goodness. Because having the fall in numbers and keeping it at that level is the whole sodding point, isn't it?

And we can't exactly forget how quickly it springs back up when people start mixing more. I really don't want more lockdowns in New Year, but the risk following the Christmas concessionary is pretty high in itself. More so if the tier system breaks down for attractions through December as well

Legally and morally yes.

Lockdown is over. Tier based restrictions only.

If you want to 'exceed' the restrictions you can of course. But it won't make you more virtuous.

@MoggyP I'm CEV and have barely left my house since march so I can assure you keeping numbers down is a huge priority for me, I'm not sure that anything I said indicated otherwise. However putting the whole county into tier 3 when we have so many low number areas and watching our businesses suffer when there are much higher areas enjoying more freedom is frustrating. There are other counties that were split, so it seems odd that others couldn't be.

I also questioned the accuracy of the app, as its estimated, which doesn't sit right with me. I definitely didn't say I would heading off to London to visit Winter wonderland, I wouldn't consider it on a normal year!