Vaccine- can anyone explain long term side effects to me

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As the title says really.

I’m delighted the vaccine has been approved today, and I’m 99% sure l’ll have it if and when it’s offered to me. I’ve read all of the research and understand how it’s been developed so quickly (and safely) but can someone who understands this kind of science explain to me about long term side effects please? I read something that said vaccines don’t usually have long term side effects, they usually tend to present themselves within a few months of being vaccinated (in which case presumably they would have been picked up by the clinical trials), but I’m keen to understand more about why this is.

The swine flu vaccine wasn't tested fully. These ones have been tested on tens of thousands of people worldwide with no problems.

Thalidomide wasn't a vaccine, it was a medicine, and it was 60 years ago. Medical research has improved since then.

Scientists around the world have been collaborating on these vaccines. Researchers in China shared the DNA sequence of it really fast, vaccines have been tested across various countries and populations, and researchers from across the world have been working together because everyone has wanted to beat this quickly. I don't know enough about science to know what a vaccine does exactly, but I completely trust the people who have spent decades training and studying to know exactly that.

Covid & lockdowns are a lot worse than any potential side effects from a vaccine that has regulatory approval.
However, i find it a little concerning that its not advised for pregnant women nor is conception advised within 2months of vaccination.

Drugs companies will continue to monitor the trial participants for years to come, so in this regard the approval is premature but what else to do? live like this for the next 5 years?

Reminded about the flu jab - the nurse at the time said to stay for 15 minutes afterwards in a chair, and let them know if I felt ill. I didn't, and they said it was fine to go (with a list of possible symptoms) because the chances of any reaction happening were all in that 15 mins directly afterwards. And that flu vaccine had been developed in a much shorter time than the coronavirus ones will have.

@jasjas1973 Do check, obviously, but an expert on LBC last night said that it was only live vaccines that weren't allowed to be given during pregnancy, and said that the non-live ones (I think the Pfizer one isn't live) are fine at any time during the pregnancy.
But like I say, DO ask because I'm not pregnant, so wasn't listening as intently as I would have been if I was pregnant!

You may find this interesting OP
The UK government has granted pharmaceutical giant Pfizer a legal indemnity protecting it from being sued, enabling its coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out across the country as early as next week.

@Potager that’s not what I’m asking! I was asking for a specific scientific explanation from someone who understands better than I do how vaccines work. I have no issues with this vaccine’s safety, it’s been approved by people who actually know what they’re taking about which is good enough for me.

Here is a table of some vaccine side effects and time from vaccine to first onset. Most were in the first few hours.

www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/vaccinecompensation/vaccineinjurytable.pdf

@QueenBlueberries

I'm no anti vaxxer but you are simply mistaken. Some people do react badly to vaccines and are affected permanently. It's very rare but it does happen. What we have to do (well the medical regulators) is weigh up the probability that we'll be adversely affected by the vaccine as compared to the disease, one of the reasons why the vaccine is being given to those most at risk first is that they will benefit from the vaccine, whether I will is harder to say (I've had covid, barely realised I was ill). Now I will have it when I get called, but I'm not in the priority groups

@duffeldaisy I was going on what Van Tam said this morning on sky or BBC.

@Potager

Seriously OP The MHRA has said it's safe, but you want to ask Mumsnet just to make sure.

This

The most recent withdrawn vaccine was rotavirus in the USA (1999) where a rare but serious side effect came to light only once it was in mass use.

@Duggeehugs82 again, not what I am asking .

Surely its just common sense if there were genuine long terms effects that were bad enough to be called long term effects it wouldnt be classed as safe.

Also the problem with the internet and a anonymous forum is anyone can claim anything and u would have no idea if they r actually telling the truth, so its just random people who have random ideas/"facts"

Hardly fair to base ur concerns on wether to have the vaccine

I don’t even understand your last post I’m afraid @Duggeehugs82

A lot of other PP’s seemed to understand what I was asking and have answered my question or taken the time to signpost me to research, which I was struggling to find. But thanks for taking the time to post and do have a nice day

@jasjas1973

JVT answered this question this morning. I hope I can relay what he said clearly

Essentially pregnant women are not taken into the drug trials. However some women who are in the trials are bound to fall pregnant at some point in the trial. At that point they are then monitored as are the babies when they are born over the coming years. However because this sample group "naturally happens" rather than preselected like the other trial groups it takes a lot longer to get enough numbers into the trial to prove it is safe

That is why it is not approved for pregnant women. The results to prove its safe take a long time to come out

@movingonup20 How many deaths Today of people who died with Covid within 28 days of being diagnosed? 414. To date? more than 60,000 in the UK alone. Read that again. Make sure it sinks in well in your brain.

Think about the thousands of people who have long covid, and those who may see their health affected for a very long time with lung damage. Let that sink in too.

Now think about all the jobs lost, all the kids missing out at school, everybody who is waiting for cancer treatment. Let that sink in too.

There.

[quote PrayingandHoping]@jasjas1973

JVT answered this question this morning. I hope I can relay what he said clearly

Essentially pregnant women are not taken into the drug trials. However some women who are in the trials are bound to fall pregnant at some point in the trial. At that point they are then monitored as are the babies when they are born over the coming years. However because this sample group "naturally happens" rather than preselected like the other trial groups it takes a lot longer to get enough numbers into the trial to prove it is safe

That is why it is not approved for pregnant women. The results to prove its safe take a long time to come out [/quote]
Thats what i said, they need time.

@Suzi888

You may find this interesting OP The UK government has granted pharmaceutical giant Pfizer a legal indemnity protecting it from being sued, enabling its coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out across the country as early as next week.

In a press conference with journalists on Wednesday, Ben Osborn, Pfizer’s UK managing director, refused to explain why the company needed an indemnity.

He said: “We're not actually disclosing any of the details around any of the aspects of that agreement and specifically around the liability clauses."

Doesn't it just fill you with confidence and warm the cockles of your heart the same way that it's lining Pfizer's pockets!

Has anyone actually got over their "long term " post astrazenica vaccine symptoms ? Im now 2 months post vaccine and still got permanent headache and out of breath doing the slightest thing if anyone has had post vaccine headaches (much longer than the common few days duration) and they have now gone what was the timeframes of it clearing ??? Thank you in advance for any info

Good thread here on long term effects & vaccines.
twitter.com/andrew_croxford/status/1416414041329786881?s=19

Permanent headache and rapid heart rate and extreme fatigue now 2 months on since having the astrazenica vaccine ! with no sign of it fading let alone going !

Has anyone had similar ? especially the headaches and now got over it ? and if so what was the duration and what did you do / take if anything to clear your head as its really getting me down now as never had headaches at all before !