Couples who don't live together but can't bubble as don't live in single households

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...are now condemned to another three months of not seeing each other. Theoretically. Really?
I'm thinking of eg students in their twenties. Or young workers in London.
How many do you think will stick to
this?

Not an issue for anyone?

Nobody knows it’s going to be 3 months, they are evaluating tiers every 2 weeks. Yes, it’s hard for everyone at the moment and the only way to meet up with a partner at the moment, who doesn’t live alone is on outside walks. Their families will have to decide who they want to see at Christmas and I can see this causing problems for couples who would like their partners to bubble up.

We stuck to it the first time around, but haven't this time. There are so many threads on this and a lot of people in this situation aren't abiding by that rule it seems

It’s not just people in their 20s.

Me and my boyfriend are both in our 50s and live with young adult children (early 20s).

I'm planning to allow my son to see his girlfriend while they're home from uni. I think it just goes too far.

I know a few couples in this situation and all of them are seeing each other regardless.

It isn't reasonable to expect couples not to see each other.

And by "see" I mean - let her stay over

It really isn't. They won't see anyone else, just us and her family, but not seeing each other just goes too far.

I’m not seeing my boyfriend.

My dad is very ill and I’m currently quarantining for 2 weeks so I can bubble with him.

I haven’t seen my boyfriend since the end of September. It sucks.

i thought you could see each other if you were in a relationship?

Not if you live with children over the age of 18.

@Skipsurvey you could as of sept 23rd but they changed that for the second lockdown so I assume that you still can't, not sure. I'm a single parent so can luckily still see my partner, but if I was in a situation where I couldn't have a bubble I'd still see him. We stuck to the rules first time around, wouldn't do it this time around

i dont blame you @boymum9

I don't understand why they got rid of the "established relationship" thing. Can't imagine there's scientific evidence that this has significantly contributed to the pandemic 😷

you need a tent?

People will just see their partner anyway, as they should. It's a huge overstep to suggest that adults in a relationship shouldn't spend private time together.

So you know better than the professionals? Well that’s obviously fine then!
Yes, it’s hard. Yes, it sucks - but you do not know better and there is no excuse. Say it as it is and accept that making decisions like this is contributing to the length of the lockdowns and restrictions and your part in increased deaths and illness.

Getting really sick of people thinking they are special and know better.

In scotland there is an exemption for non cohabiting couples. I gather there isn't one in England?

If there is scientific reason for it how come the rules are different in Scotland and other countries?

So you know better than the professionals? Well that’s obviously fine then!

The professionals? They're thumb sucking these restrictions but your faith in them is quite touching.

I am following lockdown rules. But I'm at a stage in my life where I live with my husband. I've no judgement at all against couples who want to borrow a phrase from my late nan, continue their courtship. The rules are very broad brush strokes and quite arbitrary.

@Keepingthingsinteresting

So you know better than the professionals? Well that’s obviously fine then! Yes, it’s hard. Yes, it sucks - but you do not know better and there is no excuse. Say it as it is and accept that making decisions like this is contributing to the length of the lockdowns and restrictions and your part in increased deaths and illness.

Getting really sick of people thinking they are special and know better.

Oh dear not this rubbish again.

The 'professionals' you speak of have made sure tier 1 area covers the majority of their second homes so none of these 'rules' apply to them. Convenient eh?

I realised today that in tier 3, you're technically not allowed overnight stays with your support bubble, either. There are going to be some people with local rules who haven't, in theory, been allowed to be within 2m of their partners since March.

It seems unlikely to me that people will have stuck to that, and i don't think it's reasonable to ask them to, either.

I think @wishfuldreamer you can stay overnight at each other's houses regardless of tier restrictions if you are in a support bubble