Does anyone think anywhere will move down a tier before xmas ?

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Does anyone think anywhere will move down a tier before xmas as i understand it they are getting reviewed fortnightly i think? Or have i got that totally wrong

No

HTH

I will quite happily suck up a dull Christmas for an emerging spring and a guaranteed summer holiday. (Yes, yes I know we are lucky enough to have one booked, before the naysayers appear. )

Probably not but they are going to review fortnightly.

@FinallyFluid we had a holiday booked for after gcse booked ages ok but goverment have delayed gcse by a couple weeks so now we have to cancel and can't afford to do it later in school hols as about another £4000 so don't even have that to look forward to

No I don't think so either. I think they will keep us where we are this side of Christmas and be putting most places into Tier 3 after everyone has had their Christmas bubble socialising!

No chance, Jenrick is saying it is possible for areas to move to lower tiers before Christmas, but it's probably just BS to get MPs to vote for the new rules.

Maybe as by the review 16th? Its only 2 days till schools break up. So might bakance out. But obviously all shops open now so expect increases. Cant see anyone going to a 1. 3 to 2 maybe

Not unless it's more localised than whole county (so outlying areas moving into same tier as neighbouring county)

Given that they are allowing 5 days of people bubbling up, they need stricter restrictions either side, so I think it’s highly unlikely an area will move down a tier.

No, and I don't think they should.

No I don’t think that’s going to happen. Probably more likely some tier 1 and 2 areas move up.

Nope, sorry.

But I say that from Leicester where we've been in various stages of lockdown/restrictions for 36 weeks now. We won't move down from tier 3 till the bitter end.
Benefits of being a labour city with a major who the PM apparently doesn't like.

@FatGirlShrinking

Nope, sorry.

But I say that from Leicester where we've been in various stages of lockdown/restrictions for 36 weeks now. We won't move down from tier 3 till the bitter end.
Benefits of being a labour city with a major who the PM apparently doesn't like.

What's is like in Leicester? It seems unbelievable that you've been on lock down since the beginning of the summer.

No. This is the price we have to pay for the 5 days over Christmas and I wouldn't rule out them locking us down again in Jan/Feb.

They're saying Nottinghamshire might.

@kulaexchange we never came out of national lockdown in March, well not entirely true, non-essential shops opened on 25th June then closed again on 29th June till mid August. Not been able to socialise in any indoor setting since March.

Ermmm what's it like. People are generally pissed off and frustrated at being forgotten.

Then there's 3 camps:

• not following any rules at all and doing what they like. I was in a queue at Asda the other evening and of the 6 adults in the queue I was the only one wearing a mask
• following every rule, basically haven't left the house in 8 months
• doing a bit of rule following but as and when it works for them

Unfortunately the people not following any rules seems to be increasing which doesn't help with reducing cases.

I doubt it too, we’ve already resigned ourselves to not being able to go away for Christmas and New Year. Annoying really because we’d be seeing no one apart from the odd dog walker and not putting ourselves or anyone else at any risk at all. Staying home means we’ll have to see some family 😆

No and I hope not

There are a few places in kent pushing for it - to be fair tier 3 for the whole of kent was a bit of a blunt tool when some areas are low & quite a long way from the high area

No, I doubt it. It'll be dangled above our heads just like "when lockdown ends", "September" and "when we come out of lockdown 2" to keep us going through another 3-6 months of this festering ill-managed crock of shite.

Yes - a small number

Not for any scientific or health reason but for politics.

‘Look how magnanimous and benevolent we are by relaxing restrictions where people have behaved properly. See what happens when you comply rather than argue’.

@FatGirlShrinking thanks - that's really interesting. It's strange that there's not more about it in the press and why it's been in lockdown so long and whether it's working etc. I hope you get some good news soon.

I hope so. We are in Tunbridge Wells where the rates are really low and dropping. East Sussex (Tier 2) is about 0.25 mile away, but Thanet, Swale and Medway are over 65 miles away and the reason we are in Tier 3....it's totally illogical. We have 1000s of schoolchildren coming here every day, many of whom come from just over the border in East Sussex, and we have had barely any cases in my children's schools (I think 1 in Y11 at my sons' school and 1 at my daughter's).

Not a chance (IMO) for Lancashire because of the numbers of cases in East Lancs

The only hope is if the make the areas for tiering smaller.

The graph published today gives an indication of who, suffolk where Matt Hancock lives looks the most likely.

Sussex could end up in tier 1 with t wells still in 3 if North kents figures do not improve dramatically.