Tier 1 before lockdown tier 2 after

[barbites]

What was the point?!

I live in York which as of yesterday has the lowest rate in the entire country. We’ve been put into Tier 2?

I don’t get it

Same here, which is a bit disappointing. I think Tier 1 wasn’t really working, was it? Chin up - vaccines on the way.

I think everyone needs to remember we are heading into winter. The worst time of year for viruses, illness and overwhelming of the nhs even without covid. The lockdown was to slow cases and it probably has done that. Just because the cases have gone up doesn't mean they wouldn't have gone up a lot more without lockdown ( not that it was much of one!). This winter was always going to be tough and full of restrictions.

My theory is, based on bugger all, that most of the tiering, is to do with NHS bed availabilty locally.

So, plenty beds and "reasonable " numbers = lower tier.
Few beds = high tier (and sod the numbers!)

Tunbridge Wells Pre-Lockdown Tier 1 Second lowest in country.

Now Tier 3. Still second lowest figures in the country

Lol, tier this and that, been in total lockdown, some freedom July/Aug, then tier 3 since September. Try that, it's misery. The thing is though, when they brought in tiers, it was advisory, and still is, not to travel to a lower tier. So what happens? You go to a lower tier where more stuff is open. Not surprisingly, it spreads to the lower tiers. Tiers only work if they say you can't travel into lower ones. Come Xmas, tier 3 will be going to tier 2 and 1 for nights out, we all know it

Decisions on which area goes into which tier are primarily based on 5 key epidemiological indicators:

1. Case detection rates in all age groups.
2. Case detection rates in the over-60s.
3. The rate at which cases are rising or falling.
4. Positivity rate (the number of positive cases detected as a percentage of tests taken).
5. Pressure on the NHS, including current and projected occupancy.

They also look at neighbouring areas when deciding which tier your area is in. I was in tier 2 and am now in tier 3. It is disappointing considering I have adhered strictly to the laws and guidelines. If everyone in the higher tiers adhered to them, we could soon get our areas back into the next level down.

Tier 1 here tier 3 now. But numbers pre lockdown were really for at least tier 2 but our major was refusing to.

Many of the numbers during lockdown were pre lockdown meetings abs also we had the half term so this has an impact on our numbers.

I'm in tier 3. My area was tier 2 before lockdown and cases have been decreasing, they are lower than they were beforehand going into tier 2. Very disappointing for the local hospitality sector. I'm in the east midlands and we've pretty much all been lumped together as cases overall are still rising even though it's just certain areas skewing the data.

Only Cornwall, Isle of Wight and Scilly Isles are tier 1. Basically, only the places that are hard to get to and and don’t have lots of neighbouring counties. I’m guessing other areas with low rates are in tier 2 to avoid people piling in to them to enjoy less restriction!

Tierr1 currently is Cornwall, Isle of Wight and Scilly Isles. Quite tricky for a night out.

We’ve gone from Tier 1 to Tier 3.

Our numbers are still climbing but it does seem to be slowing. Our first week of lockdown was piss take round here for people meeting up but people do seem to be adhering to it now thankfully. The local secondary schools are shut or got multiple year groups out and the hospital is struggling, I believe 50% of the critical care beds have COVID patients in them, all of them being over 60yrs.

I’m glad we’re in Tier 3, I just hope we can get our heads down, do what we need to do, get numbers down and get out of it but in the mean time I hope local hospitality isn’t hit too hard - the weekend after we go down to Tier 2 we’ll go out for a our family/household meal.

Instead of being assessed as an area we have been assessed as s county. Our numbers are low and falling. The county town is much higher, so we are currently tier 2, but if their numbers continue rising we could be put in tier 3. We are 20 miles away. I agree with the poster who said hospital capacity has a lot to do with it. Also, a large number of people here work in the county town and the county town in the next county, so there is plenty of chance for people to catch the infection at work and bring it back. I feel sorry for people in Kent who are in a similar position to us, but in tier 3. There isn't a lot we can do.

Because of the boundary lines the village I'm in is tier 2 but one a mile away is tier 3...the school serves both villages ,as does the Drs surgery, post office and the local shops. The other village is in 3 as it's in the same district as a uni city that had a spike.....the city is an hour and a half drive away on the other side of the district near another tier 2 area. So an area 5 miles from the spike is a 2 whilst another, 50 miles away, is a 3 not sure of the logic in that.

I don't think tier 1 was ever really strong enough. Mixing inside with other households is high risk for spreading the virus. Over winter we really need to reduce that as much as possible - especially if people do want to visit family at Christmas without that potentially being very risky.

In tier 2 you can still go out for a meal and a drink but with your own household. You can still meet friends but outside.

It actually seems pretty sensible and straightforward to me.

Tier 2 now but we're tier 1

Our area figures have been relatively low compared to most other places throughout the whole pandemic however we have a higher elderly population and smaller hospitals that are filling to capacity already and we haven't hit peak flu season yet.
Our nightingale was opened fully this week and patients have been transported and placed there as the main hospital is feeling the strain.

I think tier 1 didn't make much of a difference and a month long lockdown clearly hasn't worked here as our figures are now going up quite quickly.

Tier 3 Co Durham, cheers Dom!!

Tier 1 before, tier 3 now. Numbers have rocketed during lockdown. Which suggests even allowing for a two week lag lockdown has had no effect.

If lock down has had no effect then tier 3 won’t have an effect either? 🤷‍♀️ Can’t see us getting out of tier 3 until vaccines have being rolled out for the majority

What jointhecircus said. York is easily accessible from a lot of tier 3 places and has a lot of pubs and bars.

Another area Gon from 1-3. Cases are dropping locally. However we were surrounded by tier 3 areas before the Lockdown, so it did feel a bit illogical to be in tier 1. The local hospitals are in areas with higher cases... Due to the local one being in the process of being closed down.

However.... The number of empty units in the high street seems to increase every week. He pubs and cafes not opening is probably going to lead to more.

Our school had its first case at the weekend. Third of the local primary schools I've heard about this week. None of the primary schools had been affected before that, just the secondaries.

I think the point is that Boris said the lockdown wouldn’t be extended and it hasn’t been.

@RafaIsTheKingOfClay exactly. People generally seem quite happy to give up their freedom to "keep safe" though.

I’m not sure we do agree. There are very few places in the U.K. that have a genuinely low rate of Covid. Just ‘low for the UK’. The national lockdown ought to have been extended but isn’t being because Boris said it wouldn’t be. So now we have to pretend it is something slightly different.

Pre-lockdown & post lockdown tiers aren’t linked so it’s not necessarily a case of being put into a higher tier meaning that lockdown has made things worse.

We’re also in tier 3, as we were before lockdown.

Our cases are well below the national average.
Our hospital admissions have gone down by 25% this week.
Positive cases are falling while tests carried out are rising.
They don’t seem to have broken down the data on cases in over 60s by area but with all the other data going the right way, how can they justify tier 3 just because some towns an hour’s drive away are struggling?

This carrot that they’re dangling is also a lie. I don’t see what more we can possibly do to try to get ourselves out of tier 3. We’re entirely dependant on the people in the south of the county to sort their situation out.