Tier 1 before lockdown tier 2 after

[barbites]

What was the point?!

Because tier 1 didn't work.

Because covid spreads indoors and people won't stop meeting indoors voluntarily.

It was reported on the news yesterday that the tiering is based on hospital capacity for the whole region.

We were tier 2 before lockdown and are now 3 even though our rates are lower post lockdown then pre lockdown. Makes absolutely no sense to me and will be no incentive for a lot of people to follow the rules

@BathshebaWasOnTheRoof

It was reported on the news yesterday that the tiering is based on hospital capacity for the whole region.

Five criteria:

Rates overall
Rates 60+
Rising or falling
% testing positive
Hospital capacity regionally

@Newpuppymummy

We were tier 2 before lockdown and are now 3 even though our rates are lower post lockdown then pre lockdown. Makes absolutely no sense to me and will be no incentive for a lot of people to follow the rules

If you go into two now just four weeks til Christmas, then households mix, it'll be carnage by mid Jan.

You can have freedom now or Christmas. Not both. Govt chose Christmas because so many people will mix then anyway.

People just need to get on with it. The amount of whinging on my Facebook. I’m in W Yorks & we’ve been in effectively tier2 since August. We’ve had very little freedom compared to the rest of the country. But it’s fine, you get used to it & you get on with it. Do I like it? No, it’s shit. Am I resigned to it, yes. There are still positives & nice things to be found & do. The vaccine news is great, an end of some kind in sight. And you get your 5 days at Christmas.

And, despite the tier 2 since August thing, we are now in tier 3. So clearly it didn’t work v well. And nor does tier1, cases were increasing across all tier 1 areas.. we just need to suck it up for winter.

@RafaIsTheKingOfClay

I’m not sure we do agree. There are very few places in the U.K. that have a genuinely low rate of Covid. Just ‘low for the UK’. The national lockdown ought to have been extended but isn’t being because Boris said it wouldn’t be. So now we have to pretend it is something slightly different.

Pre-lockdown & post lockdown tiers aren’t linked so it’s not necessarily a case of being put into a higher tier meaning that lockdown has made things worse.

I agree, even the lowest places now have rates of around 50 per 100k, not so long ago that would have been considered a high rate.

And I don’t think it was realistic to expect tiers to go down because of lockdown, we have gone tier 1 to tier 2, our rate is going down, but it is still around 150, much higher than when the tiers were originally determined. There is no point to lockdown if everyone is then just put in lower tiers to watch the rates shoot straight back up again.

Chris Whitby said yesterday that Tier 1 isn’t enough to stop cases rising, just to slow the rate of increase, especially over winter.

With Christmas relaxations the cases really need to be driven as low as possible over the next 4 weeks or January will be terrible, I can understand why they have so many in tier 2 or 3

Same here I would have thought the lockdown would have brought cases down.

@Thewaythingsare

Same here I would have thought the lockdown would have brought cases down.

In most areas, it has, but whilst the rates might be lower than at the start of lockdown, they are still higher than when the tier system was introduced. If I look at my county, it was around 90 when the tier system started, 210 at the start of lockdown and 180 now. So it is clear that tier 1 didn’t stop cases rising fast, and if we went back to tier 1 we would quickly be in a worse position than pre lockdown, just in time for christmas

Tier three here from a low tier as well - it is extended lockdown by any other name in fact it feels worse as it has no end just "review" on unidentified criteria in 2 weeks

@Whycantibetangy

I live in York which as of yesterday has the lowest rate in the entire country. We’ve been put into Tier 2?

I don’t get it

It doesn’t have the lowest rate in the country according to PHE.

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

I'm tier 2. We've had a rise of cases despite the national lockdown, so I was expecting tier 3.
In reality I expect a big spike in my town/county soon.