Qantas will require proof of vaccination

[PaddyF0dder]

www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-australia-55048438

Personally I’m delighted. Decisive action like this is required to ensure we emerge from the pandemic.

Vaccination remains voluntary. But like any other choice, it comes with consequences.

Hopefully other airlines will follow.

Totally agree.

I don't think it will happen. Lovely bit of publicity for them but a position where a vaccine is freely available to everyone the world over must be ages away.

Good for them. It's hardly surprising after all the effort and sacrifice Australians have made during the pandemic.

Agree, hopefully other airlines/cruise ships etc will follow.

I think private jabs will be available sooner than stated so that the economy benefits. If you can afford to go abroad, you can afford the vaccines.

@BecomeStronger

I don't think it will happen. Lovely bit of publicity for them but a position where a vaccine is freely available to everyone the world over must be ages away.

But they don’t plan travel in or out of Australia till 2022, I thought?

I hope "anti-vaxxers" will bankrupt them for that

@BecomeStronger

I don't think it will happen. Lovely bit of publicity for them but a position where a vaccine is freely available to everyone the world over must be ages away.

Most of the world population doesn't fly - according to the article below, only 18% of the world’s population have ever flown and in any given year, only 3% of the world flies. Includes domestic flights, so long haul international flights will be much smaller numbers than that. qz.com/1691299/four-sustainable-visions-for-the-future-of-air-travel/

I doubt very much that Qantas will be around by 2022, airlines are going to struggle and more will go under. There also seems to be a real green initiative push so I think air travel will be discouraged.

I agree with requiring vaccination to fly in principle, but think it will be scrapped due to the logistics of enforcing it. It would require people to present some form of proof of vaccination. Training staff on what this should look like to detect fakes would be a nightmare. Various countries have privacy laws about medical information as well which could complicate things.

I don’t understand why people are losing their shit over this. Vaccine certificates are required for travel in some parts of the world already. Yellow Fever for example.

I think ticket master is doing the same thing for concerts

I think it will happen. The majority of people will have the vaccination and they will want to keep those people happy. Remember that those who have had the vaccination will be aware it’s 90% effective, so they will worry they could be one of the 10%. If there’s that possibility you’d want those around you to be vaccinated.

Australia especially won’t want to risk their citizens when their current rates are so low.

I don't think this is likely unless countries are persuing a 'zero Covid' approach. If a country does not impose compulsory vaccination among its own residents, why would it ask visitors to be vaccinated?

Not to mention that the tourism and aviation sectors are reeling and cannot afford another lost season. Since it's unlikely that everyone will be vaccinated for at least another year, even in rich countries, I can't see too many countries or airlines imposing such a rule.

It isn’t available for everyone and you can’t pay for it privately .

@IcedPurple

I don't think this is likely unless countries are persuing a 'zero Covid' approach. If a country does not impose compulsory vaccination among its own residents, why would it ask visitors to be vaccinated?

Not to mention that the tourism and aviation sectors are reeling and cannot afford another lost season. Since it's unlikely that everyone will be vaccinated for at least another year, even in rich countries, I can't see too many countries or airlines imposing such a rule.

Yellow fever vaccines aren’t compulsory for residents of countries where visitors have to be vaccinated to gain entry.

Yellow fever vaccines aren’t compulsory for residents of countries where visitors have to be vaccinated to gain entry.

Which countries are we talking about? Are they major tourist destinations?

No Quantas for me then.

I hope other airlines follow.

@IcedPurple

Yellow fever vaccines aren’t compulsory for residents of countries where visitors have to be vaccinated to gain entry.

Which countries are we talking about? Are they major tourist destinations?

Isn’t this usually just required for long-term residence visas? A lot of short-term tourist visas don’t require it.

Anything that let's me see my unwell Dad in Oz is a good thing in my book! We were supposed to go for Easter which was obviously cancelled

Although airlines might struggle to validate a vaccination certificate, presumably travel insurance companies will be efficient at that. Surely they won't pay out if you need medical treatment for Covid abroad, if can't prove you had the injection. I can see potential for people being sued for falsely claiming they had the vaccine and then spreading it to others - particularly younger people who weren't eligible for the vaccine.

@IcedPurple

Yellow fever vaccines aren’t compulsory for residents of countries where visitors have to be vaccinated to gain entry.

Which countries are we talking about? Are they major tourist destinations?

UAE, dominican republic, ghana to name a few, but there are a lot more, but I don’t know the full list.

UAE and the dominican republic are pretty big tourisy destinations.

Which countries are we talking about? Are they major tourist destinations?

These are the countries where Yellow Fever is a risk, and travellers really should get the immunisation

www.fitfortravel.nhs.uk/advice/disease-prevention-advice/yellow-fever/yellow-fever-risk-areas.aspx

This is the WHO list - necessarily quite long as countries may put different requirements on those travelling from yellow fever countries

www.who.int/ith/ITH_country_list.pdf

UAE and the dominican republic are pretty big tourisy destinations.

I've visited the former and tranisted several times, and did not require any innoculations. They may be needed for a residency visa, but not for tourism.

It makes sense to me.

It seems obvious that countries that have prioritised zero infection will not want to open their borders to people unless the chance of them bringing it in is as minimal as possible.