Just imagine.....

[WindChimeTinkle]

Imagine how shit it would be if none of the vaccines had been found to work. I mean it would have been awful.

But, soon, maybe spring we can ditch the masks and get back to normal. I could cry.

I’ve read we will still be wearing masks and social distancing even with a vaccine.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/v/s/www.forbes.com/sites/coronavirusfrontlines/2020/10/20/why-youll-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-even-after-covid-19-vaccines-arrive/amp/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%253D#ampf=

Vaccines are going to protect the elderly against future small localised outbreaks, but actually we're approaching the point where we're past the HIT.

It's great that they will make people think that things are back to normal and everything will open up, but the reality is that a future with no vaccine would look farily similar to one with a vaccine.

Life won’t be going back to how it used to be.

No that's inaccurate
We are not seeing any signs that infection rates are slowing naturally
Natural immunity is short lived

The vaccine news all round is excellent news

Although if people with colds and bugs got into better hygiene habits including wearing masks, the world would be healthier

We’ll be wearing masks until everyone is vaccinated and we’re sure it’s been successful, numbers are dropping and the R rate is down, etc. Spring is a bit optimistic but maybe by next Christmas it’ll be more normal. It’s ridiculous to say life won’t return to normal - it’s returned to normal after every single pandemic in history. People wore masks during the Spanish Flu in 1918 but they weren’t still wearing them during WW2 were they!

You will most likely have to carry proof of vaccination status or a negative test on your phone. That’s not normal life.

@Funkypolar

Life won’t be going back to how it used to be.

Yes it will.

You will most likely have to carry proof of vaccination status or a negative test on your phone. That’s not normal life

I can live with that tbh

I think the vaccine 'freedom pass' notion is incredibly unlikely, and in fact unnecessary in the medium to long term. Once enough people are vaccinated, numbers will naturally plummet, and so whilst the virus doesn't disappear completely, it ceases to be a risk in every day life. There will be small localised outbreaks, which will be treated.

I do imagine that for international travel, there will be differing requirements for different nations, as not all countries will vaccinate at the same pace and so risk will be different.

The Forbes article quoted above is mostly irrelevant now, it cites 5 reasons why mask wearing may need to continue (in the US), but already several of them are looking like non-issues, and have a different slant for the UK anyway. It acknowledges lower down that the key indicator for ceasing mask wearing is low community spread. Which vaccines will achieve. So it sort of contradicts itself slightly in that respect. I suspect it was published as part of the pro/anti mask dialogue in the US before the election.

[quote Funkypolar]I’ve read we will still be wearing masks and social distancing even with a vaccine.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/v/s/www.forbes.com/sites/coronavirusfrontlines/2020/10/20/why-youll-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-even-after-covid-19-vaccines-arrive/amp/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%253D#ampf=[/quote]
That isn't what the article says. It just says it will take time to get to the stage of being able to go without masks. Did you even read it, or did you just see the title and assume the article backed up your conspiracy theory?

Why are so many people on Mumsnet miserable bastards?

Anybody would think they enjoyed wearing masks and having everything shut. 😂😂😂

@Funkypolar

You will most likely have to carry proof of vaccination status or a negative test on your phone. That’s not normal life.

That actually is normal life for some countries and diseases. You need yellow fever vaccination proof for example to travel to some countries. This will be the same and I’m fine with that.

WindChimeTinkle - someone having a difference of opinion doesn’t make them a “miserable bastard.”

Okay, well let’s all come back to this post next year and we will see how normal life is.

BlueBlancmange - who said anything about conspiracy theories?

I never understand why on Mumsnet, a difference of opinion makes people start to name call. I respect your opinions that life will return to normal. We will have to wait and see won’t we.

Funkypolar thanks for that

Life has to go back to normal. Or at least we need to be able to stop with masks and SD.

I've been in favour or lockdowns and all measures to protect human lives. Ive followed the guidance. Im mostly happy in a field in the woods up a hill not a soul in sight..... but as soon as I have to be around others I want to be able to communicate in a normal open and friendly way. I think SD and mask wearing affects people on a very deep and profound psychological level, in ways we cannot yet fully articulate. But its harmful.

Just imagine ... if none of the vaccines actually do work. Or if they cause greater health problems in the population. Or Covid somehow mutates and becomes more dangerous because of them.

These are all possibilities too. And I can't stop imaging them.

@Dustballs

Just imagine ... if none of the vaccines actually do work. Or if they cause greater health problems in the population. Or Covid somehow mutates and becomes more dangerous because of them.

These are all possibilities too. And I can't stop imaging them.

All possible but very unlikely. We should all be very thankful to the vaccine teams who have developed these. It gives us hope at least, and if all goes well we should be in a much better place in 2021.

Don’t forget - climate change, wars, Brexit etc.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/26/next-pandemic-coronavirus-prepare

Hopefully we are better prepared to face future pandemics. The new Green Agenda may help resolve climate change issues.

So realists are miserable bastards. Nice

@fizzyp0p

So realists are miserable bastards. Nice

Oh do cheer up. The vaccines work. Don't you want normal life again? Ffs

Why do people feel the need to bring down any positivity? People are quite understandably optimistic now there is a light at the end of the tunnel

@windchimetinkle

Some people are loving this and don't want it to end. Ignore them.

Wooohooo!! Normality beckons!!

@Funkypolar

BlueBlancmange - who said anything about conspiracy theories?

If you're not a conspiracy theorist that's something at least. But you still haven't explained why you posted an article that supposedly backed up your point, but it actually didn't.

Since reading on Mumsnet a few months ago that it’s murder to go and buy milk for your coffee and that you should put cheese in your hot drinks instead, I have become more pessimistic about people in general. After reading some of the crazy stuff on here. Although the sobbing and shaking because someone only went to the supermarket to buy a chocolate bar seems to have stopped thankfully.