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Christmas is saved

503 replies

MiaMarshmallows · 22/11/2020 20:40

So happy that my partner and big family can all be together this year. We are all really close and get on brilliantly. So pleased at the news today!

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ktp100 · 22/11/2020 23:29

Yaaaayyyy!!!

Let's kill off all the grannies!!!

Hmm

Hopefully most people will have some common sense and stay apart.

MarshaBradyo · 22/11/2020 23:30

I thought it was being announced tomorrow what’s the news?

Agree further lockdown will be the result. Great.

I wouldn’t fancy the hospital two to three weeks after Christmas though.

Babyroobs · 22/11/2020 23:31

I'll give my elderly dad the choice of whether to come to us for Christmas dinner and stay a few hours like he always does. I think he will not want to take the risk.

SpillingTheTea · 22/11/2020 23:35

@ElizabethG81

Most on here seem to hate their MIL and be "no contact" with various other family members, so I can see why they're not happy with others being allowed to legally see their families. Plenty on here thought it was reasonable even in pre-Covid times to keep family members away from newborns for weeks on end, as they just wanted it to be "their little family". MN is nuts at the best of times, never mind "in the middle of a pandemic".
Hmm. You're an odd egg.
ancientgran · 22/11/2020 23:35

Let's kill off all the grannies!!! Please don't.

SheepandCow · 22/11/2020 23:37

@ancientgran

Let's kill off all the grannies!!! Please don't.
I wonder if the government could be reported to the police. The Spread A Killer Disease for Christmas could construe a hate crime against the disabled and elderly?
Notcontent · 22/11/2020 23:37

I don’t care about just one day.

What I care about is being able to go back to work in the office (wfh is actually not that much fun when you do It everyday), my dd being able to do her sport again, not worrying about whether school will close again.

SpillingTheTea · 22/11/2020 23:38

Don't worry everyone. COVID will be stuffing his/her ugly face with Christmas dinner and all the trimmings.
Obviously it will have a break like everyone else does around Christmas! Boris will say so himself tomorrow. So if a wise man like Boris decides COVID will take a break then obviously it's true.
Hope this helps clear the confusion guys.
#covidvacay2020 Wink

SheepandCow · 22/11/2020 23:39

@cdtaylornats

If it wasn't eased lots of people would just disobey. Getting people to stick to the rules is difficult, a great many will just think sod it I'm taking the kids to see their grandparents.
So shall we legalise drink driving because lots of people do it anyway?
SheepandCow · 22/11/2020 23:42

misery trolls
Yep. That's the Westminster government.
Spreading death and therefore misery at Christmas.

With the vaccine so close, it's criminal to invite the grim reaper to come for Christmas.

Littleposh · 22/11/2020 23:43

aww good for you!! You sing that loud and proud while the rest of us face our own private hell, go fucking you . . . arsehole

Littleposh · 22/11/2020 23:46

Oh and please, tag me in, and I can explain, in detail, why this is absolute bull.

Have a great life, whatever, why ram it down the throats of those that aren't??!!

Mydogmylife · 22/11/2020 23:47

@Littleposh

aww good for you!! You sing that loud and proud while the rest of us face our own private hell, go fucking you . . . arsehole
Aimed at????
TicTacTwo · 22/11/2020 23:48

@AlecTrevelyan006

This current lockdown is due to end on 2 December - do the anti Christmas people just think the lockdown should continue?
We are going back to tiers. Each tier will have more restrictions and many places are moving up a tier. We find out on Thursday what tiers we'll all be in but if you were tier 3 it will not be much different
RayOfSunshine2013 · 22/11/2020 23:51

I would have been mixing anyway but for the ones feeling like they need permission to live their lives.. congrats on the good news

jessstan1 · 23/11/2020 00:07

This is the latest news about Christmas, no different to what we knew yesterday:

"Ministers have endorsed a shared objective of introducing a limited period during Christmas that will allow families to get together and form bubbles with a small number of friends and relatives, as the coronavirus pandemic continues."

(The Independent)

SpillingTheTea · 23/11/2020 00:17

@RayOfSunshine2013

I would have been mixing anyway but for the ones feeling like they need permission to live their lives.. congrats on the good news
Your ignorance is blinding. 🕶
alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 23/11/2020 00:26

How utterly ridiculous. January and February are going to be absolutely bloody awful in the UK after this.

lovelemoncurd · 23/11/2020 00:30

And these measures are to appease Tory back benchers! I can't think that any of the scientist felt that this was a good idea!

Honestly this Christmas nonsense! What is it with us in this country. Hardly anyone goes to church anymore anyway!

SheepandCow · 23/11/2020 00:30

@alwayscrashinginthesamecar1

How utterly ridiculous. January and February are going to be absolutely bloody awful in the UK after this.
It shows what the government thinks of our hardworking NHS workers. (Utter contempt, it seems). Great Christmas present for them... Or maybe not.
SheepandCow · 23/11/2020 00:33

lovelemoncurd
You're right. The scientists have warned against it.

It's certainly not in the Christmas spirit. Nor the Christian message of looking after everybody - including the vulnerable.

PolkadotGiraffe · 23/11/2020 00:46

The countries that have managed this well have communicated a clear and consistent message. Helped people to understand the facts and to make risk assessments, both in terms of their own risk and the wider risk to others.

This arbitrary constant changing of illogical "rules" is ridiculous, ineffective, infantilising and pointless. This would have gone so much better with competent governance, early border closures, proper T&T, clear and consistent guidance and above all, treating people as adults. I think much of the childish behaviour is a direct result if people being treated like children and rebelling because it has gone on like this for so long with absurdity after absurdity.

Different people's circumstances will be different. If people have elderly or vulnerable relatives, and are able to isolate for a significant period before meeting for Christmas to protect them, and all parties are happy with that arrangement then it is totally unreasonable for the Government to prohibit that.

Of course there will be many for whom that is not possible or the risks involved are not acceptable. But that is not a reason to prohibit it for all, sad as it is. Just as it is sad that many people have to work each Christmas; but we don't then ban everyone else celebrating to make it "fair".

The Government have deliberately given the impression that the guidelines are regulations, and that the regulations are legislation but that is not the case. For now, at least, our fundamental rights remain in law and regulations do not override or take legal precedence over those legislated rights. Everybody has a legal right to a private life and a family life and if you need to see your family for this purpose it is totally legal to do so.

DeRigueurMortis · 23/11/2020 00:47

Well we've discussed this as a family and all agree that we will be celebrating Christmas as separate households regardless of this news.

No, it's not ideal, but with family all over the U.K. and children in school/Uni we agree it's too big a risk for all of us to be together (usually between 10-14 of us).

We are going to do some festive zoom drinks/present opening etc and make the best of it.

I know a vaccine is on the horizon but it's not here yet and until it's widely available we (as a family) intend to give each other the best gift of a risk free Christmas and thank the NHS staff by not potentially not adding to the number of patients they will have to treat (putting their health at risk).

Christmas is a big deal in our family and we are not Grinch like at all. Post vaccine (hopefully in the summer) we plan to have a big family gathering to make up for it.

Rather than mince pies, mulled wine and turkey it will be Prosecco and a BBQ with late drinks by the fire pit.

I just can't understand all the people "celebrating" this news.

It's a recipe for many more people to get ill/die and put additional strain on the NHS at the worst possible time of the year.

TheSunIsStillShining · 23/11/2020 00:47

I cannot believe people are actually this stupid! Does anyone really think that with 20k new cases/ 1500+hospitalizations and around 300-500 deaths PER DAY the most bloody important thing is that on one idiotic day that has been randomly chosen 2000 years ago we go and act as if there wasn't a pandemic on our hands?

I love it how people say that they don't need a nanny state but it turns out that a majority are fucking morons who want a nanny state.
Everyone who is hoping to have a normal Christmas: wake up! It's a pandemic. Nothing is normal.
We could have been much better off if people in this fucking country were not so selfish, ignorant and simply stupid. There was no need to go on holiday. And there is no need to see loved ones over christmas. You can see them later in the year. Grown ups should act as such.
And everyone can fuck off moaning about mh issues. Those whose really have genuine mh issues are waiting in line because moaners and people who are throwing hissy fits are clogging up the system. Feeling bad or having a bad day is not mh issue. It's called life. Deal with it.

IdblowJonSnow · 23/11/2020 00:48

What I want to know is why it's not being suggested that for families with school aged children, that get togethers aren't to happen until 10 - 14 days after schools break up?
That's when I'm planning to see my parents- if we go at all.
If I knew my parents were literally going to be vaccinated in Jan or Feb then I'd wait until then.
Stupid fucking govt and lack of information/plans.