Supermarkets and Schools most common for catching covid

[Orangeblossom7777]

Supermarkets most common exposure setting for catching coronavirus in England
Supermarkets are the most frequent common exposure setting for those catching Covid-19 in England, new data from Public Health England suggests.

The data was collated using the Test and Trace app, and by analysing the contacts and retracing the steps of the 128,808 people who reported they had tested positive between November 9 and November 15, revealed the most frequent locations people with the virus had been prior to testing positive.

Supermarkets have remained open for shoppers during the lockdown in England, and the data suggests they are now the primary setting where those who had tested positive for the virus reported to have been.

The second most common location were secondary schools, followed by primary schools, and then hospitals and care homes.

• seen in the news today. Interesting considering the recent lockdown

Oh dear.

That's the end of eating then.

The most frequent locations people had been, does not equate to the most common place for catching covid.

For example, if I go to work, pick up the kids from school, and nip to the supermarket on the way home, I may have been exposed in any of those places. Or none at all, I could have been exposed at home.

Only places I'm going to are at the moment are the secondary school I teach at ( 4th positive case today in a class I teach) and Sainsbury's

Wouldn’t it be interesting if they added primary and secondary school figures together and just had a column titled ‘schools’. Where would that come on the table?!

I wonder why they haven’t done that?

Give it a week or so, they’ll put the data on the table as being split into key stages-just make it seem each is just a very small proportion of cases!!

Where else were people going during lockdown? No hospitality or other shop have been open.

@Appuskidu they are treating us like fools. Desperate not to admit schools are the problem

Given that nearly everyone needs to go to a supermarket at some point and far fewer than that are at school, this clearly makes the transmission rate in schools far higher than that of supermarkets, which, well, yeah.

I wonder if it’s Waitrose or Iceland?

They should definitely close all the supermarkets now, they’re not safe! No one needs shop brought food anyway, just get an allotment and a couple of Mumsnet chickens. Sorted.

Correlation isn't causation. Just because a lot of people have been there doesn't mean they caught it there.

Your subject line is completely misleading.

Just because people had been to the supermarket does not mean they contracted COVID at the supermarket. Where else are people going during lockdown?

revealed the most frequent locations people with the virus had been prior to testing positive.

That is not exactly what your title says. A lot of people go to the supermarket weekly, or more frequently. So if you test positive, the chance you’ve been to a supermarket in the days before is quite high. That’s not the same as saying you caught it there

As a supermarket worker that really fills me with joy🙄 but I've not caught it yet.

This is a moment to reflect on the difference between correlation and causation.

No one needs shop brought food anyway, justan allotment and a couple of Mumsnet chickens

I bet chickens will be big covid spreaders. Nope, unsalted, homegrown parsnip soup for all. Best served wearing a (homespun) hair shirt.

I would also say that from threads on here/personal experience many people are not following government guidelines, would the track and trace data know that someone has popped round to a friends? It’s not like anyone would check in or out?

Why is anyone even going to a shop. Surely everyone has bottled/ pickled/ frozen/ batch cooked enough stuff from garden/ allotment to last through Covid Xmas/ No deal Brexit/ other sh*t show until next June

If not why not

@CeeJay81 Read the other posts that explain why the OP's title and interpretation is heavily flawed.

I have seen. As almost everyone goes to the supermarket, it's the assumption it was caught there. When they probably popped round to a mates or something as well but that wasn't mentioned. No member of staff had tested positive at my work place as of yet.

I think they're using as an excuse not to admit schools are an issue. Our local secondary has 33 cases. My nephews seconday school has 47 cases.

Although I went to tesco today and the lady at the door asked the man in front of he would like hand gel. ( they've gone back to squirting on customers hands /offering)
He said abruptly No. She said that's ok sir have you used your own. His reply. Now why would I want to do that and walked off.
Also rarely see customers cleaning trolleys they just walk past the station.

Surely that's just a list of "places people have been recently"? Nothing else is open.

And when Test & Trace ask people for a list of places they've been, how many are actually admitting to being at house parties etc? How many just say "Oh, I haven't been anywhere except Tesco"?

I’m not convinced the actual data says anything like the headlines suggest it does.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/936672/Weekly_COVID-19_and_Influenza_Surveillance_Graphs_w47.pdf
128808 cases, of which just over a quarter had a common location identified. There were 1796 supermarkets identified as a common location (18% of all common locations), and it includes both visiting and working at one. It says in the footnotes that more frequently visited locations are more likely to be identified as common exposures. I’m not even sure the 2+ people linked to a location will necessarily have been there at the same time for it to be identified as a common location

@Orangeblossom7777 please can you post links to the evidence you're quoting xxxx

But supermarkets have been open throughout so I can’t believe they are the issue. People may have been to the supermarket but the chances are they have a child that have been to school.