Supermarkets and Schools most common for catching covid

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Supermarkets most common exposure setting for catching coronavirus in England
Supermarkets are the most frequent common exposure setting for those catching Covid-19 in England, new data from Public Health England suggests.

The data was collated using the Test and Trace app, and by analysing the contacts and retracing the steps of the 128,808 people who reported they had tested positive between November 9 and November 15, revealed the most frequent locations people with the virus had been prior to testing positive.

Supermarkets have remained open for shoppers during the lockdown in England, and the data suggests they are now the primary setting where those who had tested positive for the virus reported to have been.

The second most common location were secondary schools, followed by primary schools, and then hospitals and care homes.

• seen in the news today. Interesting considering the recent lockdown

How many people visiting the supermarket also have children going to school or nursery? Who can be asymptomatic? How many supermarket workers have children?

I'm rarely going into a supermarket and have deliveries. Teacher and two children (currently isolating.)

My contacts are all school, unless Dh brings it home from work. But almost all his college (in an office) have children too.

BBC Morning Live are leading this morning with a story on how to stay safe in the supermarket, as apparently most cases of Covid are caught there. This is so disingenous from the BBC, it's absolutely infuriating.

Typical media and in particular the BBC generating fear to keep this going as it gives them something to talk about. It’s so wrong they are causing unnecessary fear and panic to people.

How many elderly people who’s only trip out side is now to a supermarket, and possibly the only other human contact they have will now be too scared?

It’s like when that Mark Easton bloke on the BBC at Easter did a story “Death is knocking at your door” regarding the ol’ Kung Flu.

Not read the whole thread but the OP's headline is misleading, that is not what the stats say.

What they say is that people with covid reported that the places they had visited most often were shops and schools. Is that really a surprise? I don't go to school but I've gone to shops (I don't have covid but you get the point).

It is still a worry that many people who have just tested positive for the virus have visited supermarkets or schools in the days leading up to their track and trace. Massive potential for spreading it surely. The elderly are very unlikely to have been in a school as well (unless they count picking a child up outside) so a lot of these numbers are younger people.

@Iggii

It is still a worry that many people who have just tested positive for the virus have visited supermarkets or schools in the days leading up to their track and trace. Massive potential for spreading it surely. The elderly are very unlikely to have been in a school as well (unless they count picking a child up outside) so a lot of these numbers are younger people.

But its just people going about their daily lives, at the point they went shopping they probably had no symptoms or hadnt yet had their routine test (care workers etc) or had not yet got their false positive.

If Supermarkets were mass spreading sites we'd know about it as they'd all routinely be shut due to lack of staff etc

I saw this and tbh think it's nonsense. This is what people have reported. Of course they are not going to say 'I was at a house party on Saturday' or 'I had a booty call last week' or even I had a cup of tea at my sisters house. People have reported places they are allowed to visit for fear of the fines and it hides where people are actually catching it.

But are you realistically going to be within 2 m of an infected person for 15 mins + in a supermarket? If the infection rate is so high that most people in the supermarket have it (god knows how many people per 100,000 that would have to be for that to happen) I get that cumulatively you might be exposed to enough virus to become infected but is that really likely?

Locally people really aren't sticking to the 2 m rule in supermarkets, whole families are wandering round, not everyone is cleaning their trolley etc. but people are generally wearing masks and I'm not hearing any coughing/sneezing etc. so providing I get in and out as quickly as possible I feel relatively safe.

This data seems very strange.

DH and I don't go anywhere at the moment except for walks or bike rides in the countryside. We get online deliveries. When DH had a test recently (got a nasty cold with a fever from DD - DD didn't have a fever) - he was asked where he'd been and he said 'nowhere'. He WFH full time. They were surprised. Why are they not asking - how about the people you live with? Every single thing we've caught recently we've caught a few days after our kids have come home from school with an illness.

I bet a lot of the people who've been to the supermarket also have school aged kids. There are protections in supermarkets but none in schools.

What's more likely - you caught it while wearing a mask and keeping 2m from everyone whilst being in a shop for 15 min OR that your child who is crammed in with 30 others shoulder to shoulder for 6 hours a day caught something (perhaps with minimal or no symptoms) and came home and hugged and kissed you and sat watching a movie with you for hours and gave it to you?

I know what my money would be on if I were a betting person!

This is meaningless. 100% of people with Covid have been to bed in the last 48 hours. Doesn't mean they caught coronavirus there!

I saw this and tbh think it's nonsense. This is what people have reported. Of course they are not going to say 'I was at a house party on Saturday' or 'I had a booty call last week' or even I had a cup of tea at my sisters house. People have reported places they are allowed to visit for fear of the fines and it hides where people are actually catching it.

Yes I agree with this. DH told me that someone he works with (online) got COVID and his DW and DF got it as well. I asked how the DF got it and DH said there was no mention of that.

@MamaNell

I saw this and tbh think it's nonsense. This is what people have reported. Of course they are not going to say 'I was at a house party on Saturday' or 'I had a booty call last week' or even I had a cup of tea at my sisters house. People have reported places they are allowed to visit for fear of the fines and it hides where people are actually catching it.

This! T & T type data will be seriously distorted by this. All heavy-handed criminalisation of non-compliance achieves is making people lie, which robs the Government of genuinely useful information and undermines T & T generally.

Also every journalist in this country should have "Correlation is not causation" tattooed on their heads .

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