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Is the tide turning? Is public support for restrictions waning?

35 replies

friedshrimp · 05/11/2020 11:50

Are the public tired of it all now? It certainly seems that way from the smattering of FB posts I've seen. Businesses going under, interference in people's personal life, rules that make no sense and so on...

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Racoonworld · 05/11/2020 11:58

Yes I think so. I still think the majority will comply with this lockdown but if they extend it people will start to break it and I really don’t think the majority will comply with a third lockdown. The government knew they had one chance to do it properly as they knew people wouldn’t keep complying.

pastandpresent · 05/11/2020 12:04

I feel like people have more information now, so know what's high risk and what isn't. So, now people can still go to the shops safely without breaking guidelines, compared to the unknown and uncertainty of first lockdown.
So I don't think tide is turning, but people are less frightened and not freaking out. I will still comply even I was in tier 1 area with no case.

Calmandmeasured1 · 05/11/2020 12:50

Businesses going under, interference in people's personal life, rules that make no sense
It isn't interference. The Govt isn't being a busybody. Most of the rules do make sense to people who have sense.

Many are tired of it but I still think the majority will comply with the laws and guidelines. It's quiet in the area I live today. Yesterday I think everyone was out making sure they had everything they need for the 'lockdown'. There will always be some who won't follow the rules.

IrkedEssex · 05/11/2020 12:56

There is a marked change of mood in my area. Coming up to the previous lockdown people were frightened and already staying away from gyms and restaurants. This time they were not, and the mood was universally angry about the lockdown. Most people said they would comply but probably not to the letter.

dollychopss · 05/11/2020 12:59

@IrkedEssex

There is a marked change of mood in my area. Coming up to the previous lockdown people were frightened and already staying away from gyms and restaurants. This time they were not, and the mood was universally angry about the lockdown. Most people said they would comply but probably not to the letter.
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Jessuk86 · 05/11/2020 13:02

No one that I know will fully comply, I fact just this morning I dropped my daughter off at preschool then bumped into my sister and her partner on my way to the shops so walked with them I think that was breaking the rules as 3 of us not 2, the school run there was a lot of pairs kind of reminded me of handsmaid tales as the pairs left...

RegularHumanBartender · 05/11/2020 13:04

I think so, and I hope so.

Although the erm....zealous supporters of lockdown on here would have me branded as a liar, I don't know anybody in RL that supports this. None of my family, friends, colleagues, clients agree with it and this is a wide range of people of varying ages, professions, etc. (I add that last bit because the abovementioned 'zealous supporters' always jump in with a pithy put down about "well it must be the circles you mix in"!).

PhilCornwall1 · 05/11/2020 13:05

Roads are full around here and everyone I know who works in an office, is in the office.

I've had the shielding email (sent last night), but I'm not going to be doing that again.

Judging from what I'm seeing and hearing, support for this has gone.

WhoWants2Know · 05/11/2020 13:06

It doesn't feel hugely different to me because I've mainly been working from home and haven't used pubs or restaurants. I'm sure I'll shop less and order more online. But it feels futile now. I don't feel that that closing hospitality settings will reduce spread enough for lockdown to end in a month.

Frostedlantern · 05/11/2020 13:07

Definitely.

Last time people were terrified.

Now we are more aware of our personal risk, we also know more the problems locking down causes. We also know that although lockdown will suppress the virus while it's in place, it won't make it go away.

People will still stick to the rules, begrudgingly, but most won't do the extra ones that some people make up to make themselves feel better.

Heatherjayne1972 · 05/11/2020 13:12

You’d never know there is a lockdown here
Roads were busy this morning it was like a normal Thursday
My work is busy We are still open and treating patients normally
Yeah people are fed up with the whole thing I’m hearing lots of comments about ‘getting on with it’ and ‘learning to live with the virus’

Hazelnutlatteplease · 05/11/2020 13:12

Cummings. The idea theres one rule for us and one for them is now ingrained.

I agree people on the whole will follow the spirit but they won't obey it to the letter

SufferingFromLongLockdown · 05/11/2020 13:13

If people were really onboard with it, the shops that have to close wouldn't have extended their hours in the run up and there wouldn't be people wanting to go to them, there wouldn't be queues around the block for Primark.

I'm really glad it's going to feel different this time. My mental health took a dive with the closed park benches and people ordering each other to stay at home and making up extra rules that didn't exist.
I'll be living my life as normally as possible throughout and squeezing every drop of enjoyment out that I can.

Greyshaggyrug · 05/11/2020 13:17

Yes I think so. I’ve just been to Sainsburys, nothing different to when I went yesterday. Drove round the car park twice looking for a space.

SecretSpAD · 05/11/2020 13:18

I fully support the need for a short, sharp lockdown - but this one isn't going to work because they are keeping schools open (and despite what some people think on here schools are responsible for a significant number of cases).

Restaurants, pubs and gyms all invested lots of time, money and effort into becoming as safe as possible - and it worked. So it is insane to shut those and keep the hotbeds of infection open.

I'm not supporting this nonsense and will go about my business as much as I am able to.

DenimDrift · 05/11/2020 13:26

nobody will take much notice of this one....most people i know have not personally known anyone to have died from the virus,,just a friend of a friends cousin..

until January....January after everyone was busy mixing over christmas, I think this is when it will become more 'personal'

but of course it will be too late then

McSilkson · 05/11/2020 13:30

Well, it's not coincidental that they've just banned protests... Now we've lost the right to complain publicly about the loss of all our other rights and liberties...

Iheartmysmart · 05/11/2020 13:39

Haven’t noticed any change in people being out and about where I am today.
I think people are fed up with the fact that the government have had months to prepare for a difficult winter. Instead they’ve done the square root of fuck all apart from award dodgy contracts to their cronies who have unsurprisingly proved incompetent.
Why should we comply?

picklemewalnuts · 05/11/2020 13:46

I think it will become pretty clear from normal medical care being cancelled and hospitals being unable to take in patients, whether we need to take it seriously or not.

I'd earnestly hope that stories of the hospitals admitting a ward full of patients each day and cancelling non urgent surgery would ensure people toe the line.

the80sweregreat · 05/11/2020 13:49

Of course it's not the same. People were behind this back in the spring but now they are wary and fed up and skint and with some shops open and schools still carrying on some are ' what's the point?'
A lot of my friends are really suffering financially ( for many reasons) and are on the brink. Why should they follow rules when they can't get any help from the government? I can see all sides to this dilemma but it's not a proper lockdown and it'll be hard to enforce 100 percent.

ThirteenOClock · 05/11/2020 13:57

Yes now that more is known about the risks (or lack thereof), there will be less buy-in as the risks are vanishingly small for most groups. Before people were petrified, whereas now thankfully there’s a more critical analysis which is raising serious questions regarding the validity of the reasons, data and extrapolations which have led to this current course of action.

Personally I work from home any way so not much changing. I don’t agree with it though. I agree with Lord Sumption’s views on this matter.

duffeldaisy · 05/11/2020 14:11

“ I fully support the need for a short, sharp lockdown - but this one isn't going to work because they are keeping schools open (and despite what some people think on here schools are responsible for a significant number of cases).

Restaurants, pubs and gyms all invested lots of time, money and effort into becoming as safe as possible - and it worked. So it is insane to shut those and keep the hotbeds of infection open.”

I agree completely. Though I’m going to be taking the lockdown seriously (work from home anyway, so will just not go out v much, apart from outside walks) because I really want this over, and numbers to fall, and unless we all do take it seriously, this will go on for longer. I just wish there was more support for people to isolate and for schools to minimise risk. With them open, this is going to go indefinitely, people will lose hope and illness/deaths will go out of control.

I know people who have been hospitalised (who recovered, but it was still scary at the time), and a friend has lost her Dad to it, and relatives who are very vulnerable, so it perhaps feels more of a closer threat than to someone who hasn’t had those experiences. The way things are going, though, a lot more of us will know people who have been badly affected.

Allmyarseandpeggymartin · 05/11/2020 16:19

I think people are starting to see people they know get COVID and recover. Then they are starting to question why their businesses should be destroyed. We were all terrified in March people less so now

SpnBaby1967 · 05/11/2020 16:33

I will reduce my footfall in shops & things like that but I will see my friends and family in a reasonable and covid safe way because I will not be told that I cannot see those people. I'm not socialising in any other way, not attending my clubs or meeting in a pub or restaurant.

My husband is still working out the home for emergency services and I am still working full time in a very difficult job which deals with domestic violence, child abuse and other horrible situations.

I NEED my friends, I need my family and we are as covid safe as we can be.

Bathroom12345 · 05/11/2020 17:45

It does feel different this time. DF had CV19 recovered well. I know three people that have had it after a postive test. All fine. The virus hits the very old much much worse than the young. Care homes where people are at the end of their lives are hit more than say a nursery.

I honestly think we have gone too far here.