Will we be allowed to travel from Enland to Wales to exercise next week?

[Lavenderteal271]

I live in England. My mum lives 20 minutes over the boarder in Wales. Does anyone know if I'll be allowed to meet her for a walk next week? She doesn't drive so I'd need to travel to her. Many thanks.

No you can’t travel into Wales once the welsh firebreak ends.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/02/first-minister-worried-people-will-travel-to-wales-to-escape-english-lockdown-covid

FFS, I'm not trying to escape anything. I just want to see my mum 😢

No unfortunately you won't be able to. They're not restricting travel within wales but they've said people are not to cross borders without good reason.

Unfortunately not, as you can’t enter Wales.

If you’re providing care for your mum there may be an exemption? I’m not sure of the rules on support bubbles. In Wales we were allowed a support bubble from over the border during our lockdown but I think extended households have to be from within Wales from 9th.

Definitely not allowed to travel into Wales to exercise though.

It's bullshit, I've followed every rule from the start but this is bollocks. I dont want to go to a pub or shops or to a gym, I just want to go for a walk with my mum. I can't even remember when Iast time I saw her. I know there's others in worse situations etc etc but I miss her. All my friends and family are in Wales too.

Sorry, just needed a rant. It's so hard.

Meeting with your mother, assuming she is elderly, IS a good reason, it will fall within a care exemption.

Use a busy road, they won't be able to stop everyone.

She's in her late 60's but she doesn't need me in any kind of caring capacity. We just miss eachother.

I'm alright now, just disappointed and needed a little rant. The lockdown in the spring really didn't bother me as we all felt in it together but now there's this Wales/England divide I feel very cut off from everyone.

Lavenderteal271 My mother sadly passed away some time ago but I have to say there is no law or rule that would keep me from seeing her if she was still here. Meet her, keep 2 meters apart and enjoy a walk together.

@cologne4711

Meeting with your mother, assuming she is elderly, IS a good reason, it will fall within a care exemption.

Use a busy road, they won't be able to stop everyone.

I would use a quiet back road as less likely to be stopped.

I would, worst case they stop you and you go home.

If your DM lives alone and hasn't formed a support bubble with anyone else, you can be her bubble and then you can visit her.

www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november#travel

Just make sure you stay 2 m apart so if either of you are infectious, you don't pass it on. But you can go for a walk and a chat.

You would get fined if the police stop you. They have been stopping people locally to me.

In your situation I would, not like you are travelling 3 hours to climb Snowdon. Probably not technically allowed

@Lavenderteal271

She's in her late 60's but she doesn't need me in any kind of caring capacity. We just miss eachother.

I'm alright now, just disappointed and needed a little rant. The lockdown in the spring really didn't bother me as we all felt in it together but now there's this Wales/England divide I feel very cut off from everyone.

Though there isn’t a traditional ‘caring’ element, the emotional / mental health element is a supporting factor

(I can’t comment as to whether that is acceptable under England / Wales border requirements under Covid)

@BarbaraofSeville those are the Rules for people living in England.

After we come out of this firebreak on the 9th People from England cannot come to Wales except for an essential reason.

Exercise is not one of those reasons. The Op stipulated exercise at the start of this thread. People manipulating the rules/guidelines to suit themselves is not ok and part of the reason the R rate went back up.

Protect yourselves and stay home.

Same position. I live in Wales but my Dad lives in England. Annoyingly I work in England and have appointment to give blood in England next week.

I wouldn't hesitate OP, I would just do it. I wouldn't garner opinion on here either, the rational responses are few and far between!

The OP lives in England. The rules I linked to talk about traveling within the UK and how a legitimate reason would be to meet with someone she's in a support bubble with. They're not talking about exercising. They're meeting up.

Why didn't you see her before the firebreak? You say you can't remember when you last saw her?

The thread title states exercise and Wales had its own rules. You cannot come from England to Wales to exercise.

Nightmare isn't it!

She was in a tier 3 area before the firebreak before that my work commitments stopped me. We met in the summer, I think the last time must have been end of August.

I'm wondering if her area will go back into tier 3 next week or if that's now scrapped in Wales?

She's in a support bubble with my sister as she provides them with childcare.

If it's against the rules then I won't do it, doesn't mean I can't have a grumble about it though 😁

I really feel for you OP seeing as you're not too far from her . I'm betting they'll be upping patrols near the borders and stopping lots of people so the risk of being fined will be quite high. I'm in Pembrokeshire and it's busy like a normal day around here . People don't seem to be taking this lockdown as seriously as the last one.

We’re not actually in lockdown @ExplodingCarrots so I’m guessing people are doing the things they won’t be able to do tomorrow.

I'm in Wales, I want to see my mum to but I can't because we're in lockdown. Then we have new rules after that, so no you can't see your mum by travelling into Wales.

The longer people continue to 'bend' the rules to their liking the longer this will continue.