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Tony Blair this morning

155 replies

LaLoose · 02/11/2020 11:21

Did Tony Blair's four-step plan - explained on the Today Programme this morning - make clinical sense, does anyone know? And, if so, why the FLIP aren't we / all European countries doing it NOW???

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BadTattoosAndSmellLikeBooze · 02/11/2020 16:04

If you read my OP you will see that I was in fact asking for experts to give their opinion on what might work and what would not.

You came to Mumsnet looking for ‘experts’ on coronavirus. 🤣

silentpool · 02/11/2020 16:20

Let Blair test it first and then I will listen.

wowfudge · 02/11/2020 16:29

Thanks for clarifying what the four points were - appreciate it. Sounds eminently sensible, especially when compared with the current government's headless chicken approach.

ImEatingVeryHealthilyOhYes · 02/11/2020 16:31

I really like him. He doesn’t need to keep coming up with suggestions to fix problems, he could think “sod it, I’ve done my bit”.

I wonder if David Cameron has a plan?

feelingverylazytoday · 02/11/2020 16:42

I think it's better to wait for the approval and guidance of the JCVI when it comes to rolling out any vaccination programme. Boris is doing the right thing by staying out of it and letting them and the developers do their job.

sashagabadon · 02/11/2020 16:47

It’s very easy for Blair to say roll out the vaccine (and I do agree with him) but it isn’t his head in the chopping block should something adverse happen. Boris can’t say but Blair said to do it on radio 4 as his defence in court.
Boris is wise to let the vaccine people do their stuff rather than jump the gun.

Emmapeeler2 · 02/11/2020 16:49

I also don't know if it's realistic, but I also like that it is a plan. What's the government's, I wonder?

I'd have almost any former PM over this cabinet at the moment. Thatcher included. Theresa May is sitting on the back bench doing nothing. Not sure why Boris hasn't thought to give her a role yet. Or asked her for advice? Hancock is a joke and Gove clearly just wants to be PM.

SerendipityJane · 02/11/2020 16:56

It’s very easy for Blair to say roll out the vaccine (and I do agree with him) but it isn’t his head in the chopping block should something adverse happen.

Because Boris and chums have all been held to account for their fuckups, haven't they ?

Next !

FOJN · 02/11/2020 17:04

For one he was advocating planning the vaccine regime now, rather than waiting until the vaccine is ready and then realising you need to work out how to vaccinate the population.

Can't stand the bloke but I do hope someone in authority is listening to this. We need a plan to efficiently administer the vaccine so it would be a good idea to do that now so we're ready to get on with it as soon as the vaccine is ready and approved.

notevenat20 · 02/11/2020 17:12

Tony Blair is right on this and has been right on pretty much everything in the last few years. Sadly for him and us no one can stand him so no one listens.

Crakeandoryx · 02/11/2020 17:33

A plan needs to be in place for how the vaccine is going to be distributed now. Not when it's approved and I agree it needs to be done fast. Even if it's not totally affective but proven to increase immunity in the majority we need it to be in the population. Especially essential workers and those most vulnerable!

Dustysilkflowers · 02/11/2020 17:38

Tony Blair should actually be in prison for war crimes. How he is still getting air time I don’t know!

hetanom · 02/11/2020 17:42

So basically he's saying we should be procuring vaccines, giving patients therapeutic drugs, testing people and collecting data. Wow, thanks Tony, whatever would we do without you?

hetanom · 02/11/2020 17:43

Thank GOD we have one noble hero to come up with these groundbreaking ideas.

SerendipityJane · 02/11/2020 17:45

@hetanom

So basically he's saying we should be procuring vaccines, giving patients therapeutic drugs, testing people and collecting data. Wow, thanks Tony, whatever would we do without you?
We'd be following Boris and the boys who are doing none of those things ?
hetanom · 02/11/2020 17:50

You don't think Boris and his lot are procuring vaccines, giving patients therapeutic drugs, testing people and collecting data? Even if Tony's point is that they should be doing a better job of it, that's hardly a great insight is it? I don't think I've spoken to another living soul in the last few months that hasn't already said the same thing.

wheresmymojo · 02/11/2020 17:51

Iraq is totally irrelevant in this context.

His plan is really fucking sensible.

wheresmymojo · 02/11/2020 17:53

@ImEatingVeryHealthilyOhYes

Ive been very impressed with him on this and also brexit.

Say what you like, I believe he still feels a sense of responsibility for the country (I personally suspect he’s quite frustrated at having very little power now)

This.

Despite the Iraq war I'd take Blair over any other PM we've had since.

SonEtLumiere · 02/11/2020 17:54

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SerendipityJane · 02/11/2020 17:59

You don't think Boris and his lot are procuring vaccines, giving patients therapeutic drugs, testing people and collecting data?

Nope, I don't.

Dongdingdong · 02/11/2020 18:00

Tony Blair can do one.

Wingedharpy · 02/11/2020 18:05

The joint committee on vaccination and immunisation have already published, in September, an interim paper on the ranking of priority groups, once an effective vaccine is available.

If I could do links, I would, but a read of it on the Gov.uk website, explains why things can't be carved in tablets of stone.

It's called : JCVI : updated interim advice on priority groups for Covid 19 vaccination.

ImEatingVeryHealthilyOhYes · 02/11/2020 18:06

I find him strangely comforting when he pops up on the radio. Bit like the Milliverse, is that still going?

Toscata · 02/11/2020 18:18

At this point, I'd listen to absolutely anyone on this subject who had an intelligent plan that made scientific sense. I'd listen to Putin, Trump, Kim Jong-un... it's the plan I'm interested in, not the person.

If people don't like Blair because of Iraq, then fair play to you, but that's not really relevant to this.

GrumblyMumblyisnotJumbly · 02/11/2020 18:18

Blair can zip it as far as I'm concerned.

Keir Starmer did say everything that I would have liked to have said to the Tory muppet show in the House of Commons today.

How are we supposed to believe a thing that comes out of Johnson's mouth when he u-turns at every step? This Government are completely reactive not proactive & their test, track and trace system is a disaster. At least they seem to have given launching new stupid 3 word slogans a rest!