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Do you think the Furlough Scheme needs to be extended for another year
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RUNFAST11 · 01/11/2020 12:26

At least?

France did it till end of 2021 Germany has till 2022.


With COVID not being eliminated any time soon more deaths and lockdowns will happen in 2021 and perhaps beyond. Therefore, a furlough scheme becomes necessary as many businesses will be affected.

Do you think unemployment will reach double figures before 2021?

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ILoveMyMonkey · 01/11/2020 12:28

And how will they pay for it?

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WitchesSpelleas · 01/11/2020 12:28

It would be nice but I'm not sure it would make much difference. My husband was furloughed for a period, but in the end the business had to close, so he was made redundant. The problem is that covering staff wages is only part of the battle - a business has all its other costs to pay - and if there's zero revenue coming it, it will reach a point where it's no longer viable to remain open.

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frozendaisy · 01/11/2020 12:29

If they want people to stay at home they need furlough.

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Lavenderseas · 01/11/2020 12:29

How on earth will we afford it ShockShock??

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Lavenderseas · 01/11/2020 12:29

And no, Germany has not been paying up to 80% of employees wages!

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NiceViper · 01/11/2020 12:30

I think it should be extended for the ECV, but I don't think it will be affordable in numbers beyond that

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Sonnenscheins · 01/11/2020 12:31

Government Debt is already BIGGER than GDP this year, much higher than Germany's.

Do you want our children to pay 70% taxes to pay back all these debts?

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Beamur · 01/11/2020 12:32

I think a universal benefit is more likely. It will be much less than furlough payments though.
People are going to be hard up. Govt will find a way to push that cost elsewhere - like banning evictions.

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Sunflowers246 · 01/11/2020 12:36

Unfortunately we don't have a magic money tree..!

As a country we simply cannot afford it, unfortunately. Have a look at Government borrowing, and that's with current low interest rates. If they rise, we'll be in even more trouble.

Yes, our poor children will have a lot of debt to repay.

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CoronaIsWatching · 01/11/2020 12:38

@Sunflowers246

Unfortunately we don't have a magic money tree..!

As a country we simply cannot afford it, unfortunately. Have a look at Government borrowing, and that's with current low interest rates. If they rise, we'll be in even more trouble.

Yes, our poor children will have a lot of debt to repay.

Presumably the Gov't can just print more money if they need it
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Babyroobs · 01/11/2020 12:40

If the government are paying people 80% of their wages to keep the jobs open then these furloughed people need to help with the covid effort !

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Witchend · 01/11/2020 12:41

Another year would be silly currently. And I'm one who may retain their job if furlough is extended (hospitality business) and lose it if it finishes.

I think looking at it for more than a month ahead makes sense, as it enables businesses to plan, but not too far ahead. I'd have liked to see it to start of January, and I think it will be needed until April time at least, but I'm hoping it won't be needed for the majority beyond that.

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ILoveMyMonkey · 01/11/2020 12:41

Presumably the Gov't can just print more money if they need it
不不不不不
That's not how it works

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Waxonwaxoff0 · 01/11/2020 12:42

I'd rather my child have to pay more taxes in the future so that children today aren't going hungry because of all the parents losing their jobs.

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nancy75 · 01/11/2020 12:48

In 2008 we spent 136 billion bailing out the banks - furlough has cost around 40 billion. If we could afford it then we can afford it now. Rather than complaining about the cost of furlough people should be looking at the money wasted & syphoned off by this crooked government

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WitchesSpelleas · 01/11/2020 13:16

In 2008 we spent 136 billion bailing out the banks - furlough has cost around 40 billion

There was a clear plan for the banks to repay that, though - which many of them now have. There's no such plan in place for furlough.

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KitKatastrophe · 01/11/2020 13:20

Presumably the Gov't can just print more money if they need it
Is this a serious comment???

Look up hyperinflation in Weimar Germany and see how well that works.

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AllPowerfulLizardPerson · 01/11/2020 13:24

I think they call it quantitative easing these days.

Not to be done lightly, and not to be done sparingly.

I think furlough (or enhanced SSP/ESA) should be made available to the ECV, as the Government is advising them not to go to work (if they cannot WFH) even when their workplace is open. I don't see how it can go beyond that.

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Sonnenscheins · 01/11/2020 13:29

Presumably the Gov't can just print more money if they need it

GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

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nancy75 · 01/11/2020 13:30

If we dont have furlough what is the other option for people who cant go to work because their workplace is closed? Mass unemployment? Millions on universal credit wont be any cheaper than furlough, but it will stop business like pubs being able to reopen quickly when measures are lifted, meaning the gov pays out for a longer period.

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PineappleUpsideDownCake · 01/11/2020 13:32

We're coming towards the end of the self employment help too.

My partner works as a contractor so we are stuffed. No point retraining as the work will be there after covid. UC isn't a lot when your budget is based on a larger salary.

We're stuffed.

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Sonnenscheins · 01/11/2020 13:39

If we dont have furlough what is the other option for people who cant go to work because their workplace is closed? Mass unemployment?

Yes, sadly it is mass unemployment. And rising debts.

That's the problem with lockdowns and why many are against them.

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Sonnenscheins · 01/11/2020 13:40

And if schools also closed, the problems would be EVEN bigger unfortunately.

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Smileyoriley · 01/11/2020 14:25

Babyroobs

If the government are paying people 80% of their wages to keep the jobs open then these furloughed people need to help with the covid effort !
Doing what exactly? Fast tracked into respiratory nursing?

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nancy75 · 01/11/2020 15:24

@Smileyoriley

Babyroobs

If the government are paying people 80% of their wages to keep the jobs open then these furloughed people need to help with the covid effort !
Doing what exactly? Fast tracked into respiratory nursing?

Exactly - I run a tennis club & dp runs a pub, I dont think youd want either of us as your nurse if you ended up in hospital!
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