Kids mixing after Thursday

[Singlebutmarried]

So, if the kids are in school together, in the same class and they live next door to each other. Would you let them play together outside of school?

Ostensibly there would be at least one adult supervising the play date, right? So there’s one more person mixing with the child that is not theirs. The children are in the bubble, not the parents.

No. Just obey the rules.

I think what you’re suggesting is against the rules. However, I do understand your thinking.

BUT The kicker for me is always, if I was infectious, would I have spread it unnecessarily? In this case the answer is yes as you would have made that child’s parents a direct contact of your child. That would mean that they would have to isolate should she develop symptoms and the chain starts there and goes to their colleagues etc.

It’s only 4 weeks. They play at school so a few quiet evenings and weekends won’t hurt.

You can meet one person not from your household outside in a public place.

This. So it’s fine to meet up with a friend of your DC in the park or a playground. Of course the weather makes this pretty tricky.

No. Stop thinking you are above the law.

How is it against the rules? You can meet with one other person outside, so as long as they don't need supervising it is within the rules, surely?

@Singlebutmarried

I’m not advocating a mass bundle of kids.

These two spend the school day together, so why not play outside together after school?

You can meet one person from another household for exercise.

So this would be fine surely?

Are you intending to supervise closely so that no other child joins them? Will you be monitoring the other family's potential for Covid contact? How will you justify the precedent that you're setting for the other children on the street, whose families are complying?

Stop being so fucking selfish.

Are people planning to not meet one on one outside?

@Dogneedsbrushing

My local playground never reopened. It’s currently full of sheep, if you can get your head round that.

Do they play on the equipment? Currently picturing sheep whizzing down the slide .

It honestly is quite simple: the more contact we have with people the more our chance of contracting or passing on the virus.
So maybe just use common sense and manage the risks in your life.
Do you see a play date as something that is so important that you can add to your child's contacts and therefore increase his risk?
Or will you think, Ah the kids are having social contact with peers throughout the day, they already have that risk there so it isn't essential for them to play together after school?

@minipie

You can meet one person not from your household outside in a public place.

This. So it’s fine to meet up with a friend of your DC in the park or a playground. Of course the weather makes this pretty tricky.

Agree with this. If an adult can meet someone outside, why can't a child? Especially if in the same bubble at school. The grey-area is whether a parent needs to be present. Are you a single parent? Single parents can form a bubble with another family, I believe.

Slightly different to playing together but my Dd walks to school & back with 2 other friends, we have had several incidents locally of a man trying to get school girls in to his car recently - there is no way any of them will be walking on their own.

I believe a single parent family can form a bubble with one other person or family if that is relevant to the relationships in this case.

Or
We're allowed to meet outside with one other person
Have I misunderstood that aspect of the rules?

Yeah they can meet one other outside so it’s within the ‘rules’ if they’re old enough to just play outside one-on-one.

You can meet one person from another household for exercise.

But only with SDing, so they should be 2m apart.

The idea is to restrict the amount of time people are moving outside of their households.

Mixing in school is necessary - eduction is necessary and SDing isn't possible, so it's a necessary evil.

Mixing outside of school isn't necessary. Playing with your mate for an extra hour after school isn't necessary or essential. It just increases the time spent in close contact with one another, and if playing then more likely closer together, shouting to one another, face to face time increased, etc.

With younger children it also means more chance of the parents standing together and chatting, often closer than 2m and often face to face and prolonged durations.

Your child's teaching and school staff have no choice to put themselves in a risky environment with no masks, no SDing etc so it's important that you and your children so everything you can to reduce your unnecessary contacts to help keep them safe too.

It seems pretty clear to me, even if it ends up sounding illogical.

Kids can mix at school because an education (or childcare) is considered essential.

However, all non-essential mixing is restricted, which means playing at the weekend.

Yes, it seems silly because they've spent all week together, but it's still quite clear.

"However, all non-essential mixing is restricted, which means playing at the weekend."
But that simply isn't true!!

No. Just play by the rules please.

Please tell me the rules! Particularly the one about two people meeting outside?

However, all non-essential mixing is restricted which means playing at the weekend.

Restricted but can happen 1:1, for both exercise and recreation - but with social distancing in place. It's restricted as to how many and where it can happen.

Can parents guarantee the children will stay only as one in one and always be 2m apart? What happens in school regarding distancing is irrelevant to what happens outside of school and in playgrounds.

If schools end up closing, people will end up complaining...yet only have themselves to blame.

If they are in the same bubble at school particularily the same class and it's just a couple I would. There's no social distancing happening in school. It makes zero logical sense why at 3pm they can suddenly no longer mix.

It is restricted, down to 1 on 1. That's restricted. Not banned, restricted.

How is it not true, SPB?