Kids mixing after Thursday

[Singlebutmarried]

So, if the kids are in school together, in the same class and they live next door to each other. Would you let them play together outside of school?

[IndecentFeminist]

I would

[CoronaBollox]

Thank you. It was reduced hours for myself to visit baby.

What me and my friend do would have been classed as a support bubble last month, her being a single parent and people were fine with that. You are right, I followed the rules to a T last time, I wont be doing that again.

[Canuckduck]

If they are in class all day together then I don’t see this as adding any additional risk. Are they doing things at school to mitigate risk- social distancing and mask use? These things could be continued if they are and they could play outside. They are already in each other’s group.

[RedskyAtnight]

It could indeed come under the informal childcare thing

Only if you are in a childcare bubble with the other family.

[TiddleTaddleTat]

They are in the same class... it doesn't add to the risk...

[ImnotawitchImyourwife]

All the people advocating following their own rules: do none of you see a problem with teaching your children that it’s ok to look for loopholes to justify why the rules don’t apply to you? People say today’s young adults are an entitled bunch. Just wait until today’s kids grow up if this attitude is as prevalent as it appears to be on mumsnet. This is not just about the current pandemic, it’s about the examples being set.

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

'What me and my friend do would have been classed as a support bubble last month, her being a single parent and people were fine with that.'

Why didn't you say that in the first place, single parents can of course link with one other household. I think people need to refer to guidelines if confused.

[CoronaBollox]

Do you need everyones personal details before you launch your rants highhorse? The virus has brought out the ugly in people, you demonstrated that beautifully earlier when you called me selfish, sacrifices my arse har har and a sly dig at parenting (play with your own toddler maybe?) Without knowing a single thing about me or my friend. I answered the OPs question and although my friend could be classed as needing support, she just doesnt want to be trapped in the house on her own again with a toddler (I know she should just play with her herself I have tried suggesting that to her) we are still breaking the rules with how much contact we have.

[CoronaBollox]

Sorry forgot to add she links with me and her siblings, so she is breaking the rules as am I. Both using our own judgement. I'm sure there are people who eat out in restaurants still, something I still haven't done. But because boris has said it is ok no one is going in there shouting at them.

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

'Do you need everyones personal details before you launch your rants'

Look, crack on breaking the rules you're clearly going to, just stop your 'support bubble with a single parent' bollocks when you follow it up with 'Sorry forgot to add she links with me and her siblings, so she is breaking the rules as am I '.

You seem so very proud of yourself. Its so depressing. We're all in this shit situation because people continue to do exactly as they please.

[yikesanotherbooboo]

Please minimise socialising as much as you can to keep this lockdown as short as possible. Of course your children can't mix after school or at the weekend. This is rubbish for everyone.

[Lifeisabeach09]

All the people advocating following their own rules: do none of you see a problem with teaching your children that it’s ok to look for loopholes to justify why the rules don’t apply to you.

If the rules are senseless, absolutely. We aren't sheep.
These two children are in close contact at school. But it's moot because the rules say that one person can meet another as long as they follow SD so they wouldn't be breaking anything as long as they maintain this.

[beelola]

@RebeccaCloud9 I literally said it wasn't ideal. But there is some distancing in most classes. All 30 kids don't huddle together with the other 30 kids in the playground do they? It's common sense. If your kid doesn't get to see their mate at school then you shouldn't be increasing contacts by seeing them out of school, if they are seeing them at school then they don't need to spend time with them out of school. How selfish do people have to be...

[CoronaBollox]

Highhorse. Wtf? I mentioned it would be classed as single parent support bubble a loooooong time after my initial "I am breaking the rules" post. Why are you now twisting it that I am breaking the rules but trying to make it seem ok? I said all along what I am doing. So bollocks to you. You should have stopped when I said you were embarrassing yourself tbh.

I'm not proud of myself, I answered OPs post. You seemed the proud one with your oh so witty responses that have backfired. Now you're taking the narrative that I am making excuses etc, thankfully the posts are there for people to read.

[Thurlow]

I want to preface my next comment by saying that a) this government is an absolute shit show and you'd need a book to list all the things they've fucked up on, and b) I don't think lockdowns are the long-term way to deal with a virus that's not going anywhere (more investment in healthcare and T&T being the bloody obvious fixes needed).

Having said that, we are where we are today. The scientific advisors are saying that the NHS is close to being overwhelmed, with huge risk to life for both Covid and non-Covid patients. The simplest way of stopping a virus spreading is to limit interaction between people as much as possible. Hence they have advised an initial lockdown of 4 weeks to try and stem the tide slightly.

It's not fun for anyone. It's going to be very hard for a lot of people. But this lockdown is a lot lighter than it was in March - schools and childcare open, support bubbles, 2 people allowed to exercise together. They've learnt at least from some massive mistakes they made in the spring, even if the rules are vague and often illogical now.

It's depressing that so many people don't seem able to think of the wider society for four weeks and then see how things are. Really depressing.

If lockdown continues long-term I'll definitely be someone assessing how it's affecting the mental health of those closest to me, and seeing what can be done to help. But FFS, is it that hard for most people (exceptional physical and mental health issues excepted) to try and limit their exposure to other people to only where it is absolutely essential, for a few weeks?

[PostItJoyWeek]

I will limit my exposure. I have no desire to bring covid to high risk people. Howver, I will not follow illogical rules. I bet I am less of a spreader than mindless rule followers.

I won't be going out this week for one last hurrah. I won't be meeting one vulnerable person then another then another, each separately thus obeying the rules but potentially spreading to many. I will let my children play with groups of the classmates in the park. I will mix households in specific circumstances: DH shares support for FIL with SIL as it is too much for any one person - three households in total - I would have SIL and FIL round here for Sunday dinner at the same time.

[Tolleshunt]

It’s not just four weeks tho, is it, it’s coming after 7 months of shit and many are at breaking point already.

[Doyoumind]

I'm a single mother so the first lockdown was very hard. Covid has had a huge impact on my finances. It's shit but just because it's been hard for me doesn't mean I don't see how hard it has been for other people and how hard it will be. Lockdown might not be ideal but breaking rules solves nothing. It increases the risks in different ways for everyone. It isn't a 'victimless crime'.

[GetOffYourHighHorse]

'It's shit but just because it's been hard for me doesn't mean I don't see how hard it has been for other people and how hard it will be. Lockdown might not be ideal but breaking rules solves nothing. It increases the risks in different ways for everyone.'

Exactly this.

[Vintagevixen]

@ImnotawitchImyourwife

All the people advocating following their own rules: do none of you see a problem with teaching your children that it’s ok to look for loopholes to justify why the rules don’t apply to you? People say today’s young adults are an entitled bunch. Just wait until today’s kids grow up if this attitude is as prevalent as it appears to be on mumsnet. This is not just about the current pandemic, it’s about the examples being set.

I'm good with teaching my DD the art of critical thinking and questioning, so yes.

[Seagrassorchid]

I would let them socialise yes. It's bloody ridiculous to adhere to the rules when they are together all day, why inflict loneliness on them when if one of them gets it the other will too regardless.

[StaffAssociationRepresentative]

Well that’s it isn’t it ! People are making up their own rules to suit their circumstances or not following rules at all.

We will end up in an extended lock down if people don’t stop this woe is me behaviour. If we end up shutting schools in a few weeks because cases are not falling then don’t start bleating on here that’s it’s unfair

#followtherules #savechristmas #protectourschools

[goodhairforlockdown]

I wouldn't.
We are in a lockdown to try and slow down the virus spreading.
Why do you need to try and push the rules?
Yes wherever the lines are drawn there will be questions - just accept the rules as they are.

[Halliehallie9828]

@Singlebutmarried

So, if the kids are in school together, in the same class and they live next door to each other. Would you let them play together outside of school?

Yes.

[StealthPolarBear]

Lots of us haven't been able t meet indoors for a month or so now.