We must stop making policy based on PCR testing

[hamstersarse]

You may have heard discussion from scientists about how the tests we use are not fit for purpose.

This 10 minute video offers a very clear explanation as to why

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=S_1Z8cSXI-Q

I know it seemed like testing was the answer, but that concept relied on the fact that the test was fit for purpose.

The casedemic we have right now will not go away ever if we continue to rely on this test as the barometer.

The Yeadon post that you are so up in arms about is bad. Agreed. I am pretty sure he has commented on it somewhere and corrected. However, he has been extremely frustrated with constantly being accused of being a crank and you sometimes see that in his posts.

All human right? Or are you of cancel culture?

I mean even Vallance's projection but not a projection) in September was totally incorrect by a very large number. Yet I presume you do take his word as truth.

I am very sure Vallance has also talked about herd immunity being the only way to get through this (like Yeadon) at the beginning of this.

Oh, here he is back in March saying what would now be considered a murderous and covid-denying thing twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1238390547783528448

@Turtleshelly

All this aside, even if it was true (which thr vast majority of scientists say it is not), looking at the positivity rate would still give an accurate view of whether infection rates are increasing.

And they are.

If positivity rates are increasing using the same type of test... it doesn’t matter how many false positives there are, it still shows infections rising.

Attached are the latest positivity rates.

Yes, rates may be going up

No-one is denying that in any way.

But it really does matter that we have no published FPR, when a third of the country is shut down based on these rates

"I am pretty sure he has commented on it somewhere and corrected."

Yeadon admitted the information was wrong but said "it doesn't matter". Great attitude to the truth he has there.

He didn't correct it or delete the tweet. He could easily have said 'sorry folks, got some incorrect info there, will delete the tweet' and moved on, but instead he said
"Of course it’s possible that the person who told me is some kind of spook. The retired doctor I exchanged half a dozen messages with sounded like all the others that were genuine. But it doesn’t matter..."

So no apology, the truth "doesn't matter" and some weird conspiracy stuff about his source possibly being a spy?? ("some kind of spook").
mobile.twitter.com/ArgusICraig/status/1318820861722480640

Read some actual bloody research. The data thread on here has plenty for you. You say you find it hard to consume - if that is that case, maybe you aren't equipped to digest the information it contains and should not go round handing out your Youtube gleaned opinions to others. You are wrong and your lies are dangerous.

Oh you're back.

In your opening post you said hospital admissions were down. 5 times I've asked for that link. Where is it?

[quote CoffeeandCroissant]"I am pretty sure he has commented on it somewhere and corrected."

Yeadon admitted the information was wrong but said "it doesn't matter". Great attitude to the truth he has there.

He didn't correct it or delete the tweet. He could easily have said 'sorry folks, got some incorrect info there, will delete the tweet' and moved on, but instead he said
"Of course it’s possible that the person who told me is some kind of spook. The retired doctor I exchanged half a dozen messages with sounded like all the others that were genuine. But it doesn’t matter..."

So no apology, the truth "doesn't matter" and some weird conspiracy stuff about his source possibly being a spy?? ("some kind of spook").
mobile.twitter.com/ArgusICraig/status/1318820861722480640[/quote]
You are very ‘conspiracy’ about Yeadon

Do you not think he has sufficient qualifications and experience to say what he says?

@Nellodee

Read some actual bloody research. The data thread on here has plenty for you. You say you find it hard to consume - if that is that case, maybe you aren't equipped to digest the information it contains and should not go round handing out your Youtube gleaned opinions to others. You are wrong and your lies are dangerous.

Great

But what’s your opinion on the PCR test?

6 times? no. Didn't think so. You're spreading unsubstantiated crap under the guise of having superior intellectual abilities by being 'enquiring.' When you can't validate your own info. Hiding thread, better things to be doing. :)

Fuck sake. Yes if we stop testing people will magically no longer need hospital treatment, get long covid or die. Come and stand in my hospital and tell my friends who can’t leave the house now post covid they would be fine if they hadn’t submitted to the powers that be and tested positive.

@hamstersarse

Then we can also go on deaths and hospital admissions which where I live are rising fast and in line with the rise in infections.

The positivity, admissions, and ons studies all indicate the PCR results are correct - if anything they’re a little low.

We’re not just relying on PCR tests, we are relying on all these factors.

That’s why some areas go to tier 2 or 3 with different levels of infections... they’re considering hospital capacity and positivity rates etc too.

Let's just do deaths than. Is an average of 200 per day in the last week enough to affect policy?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54712003

This shows one reason why the UK is unable to cope efficiently in a pandemic. Our NHS provision is woefully inadequate and operating on a shoestring. We get by most winters but it is not good enough.

@housemdwaswrong

Oh you're back.

In your opening post you said hospital admissions were down. 5 times I've asked for that link. Where is it?

Shhhh now! Don't be a sheeple by asking for actual facts and figures, not feels!!