Is daughter safe to come home?

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Daughter who is away at university has had coronavirus. She is out of isolation tomorrow according to the government advice and is allowed to go back into uni and carry on life as normal.

She is desperate to come home for a few days visit as she has been very unhappy since leaving home in early September, then even more miserable with coronavirus and isolation.

Is she safe to come home this week?

So what if she can get it again? She has just had it and was fine (like the vast majority of people)

Live your lives and atop wasting them

They have literally just said on the news that antibodies don’t last very long at all and so you can catch it again. There are various reports of people getting it twice. The primary issue is what tier you are each in

@HasaDigaEebowai

They have literally just said on the news that antibodies don’t last very long at all and so you can catch it again. There are various reports of people getting it twice. The primary issue is what tier you are each in

Disagree. The primary issue is that the daughter "desperately " wants to go home for a bit. So let her.

I would let her regardless of circumstances, but in this case having just isolated she couldn't be a lower risk

@LadyPenelope68

It also depends what Tier you are both in as guidance for students is different in different tiers.

No it bloody doesn't

There are no actual laws governing travel between tiers and even if there were we cannot let this country get to a point where we don't let children travel home!!!

@Tiredeyesneedsleep

So what if she can get it again? She has just had it and was fine (like the vast majority of people)

Live your lives and atop wasting them

The preliminary cases of reinfection that I’ve studied show a pattern of mild case first time and severe case with hospitalisation in ICU Second time. (In some young people with no comorbities) If immunity doesn’t work then we can’t really “get on with our lives” without very tough choices in the face of potential mass reinfection with complications ( e.g. like anyone over 30/with underlying conditions can’t have a ventilator/have active treatment kind of difficult)

"The preliminary cases of reinfection that I’ve studied show a pattern of mild case first time and severe case with hospitalisation in ICU Second time. (In some young people with no comorbities)"

Interesting, can you share a source that shows that is anything other than an absolutely minute risk please?

What the hell has this virus done to parents?
A student at the uni in my hometown killed themselves the other week due to MH issues from being alone.

This.

The preliminary cases of reinfection that I’ve studied show a pattern of mild case first time and severe case with hospitalisation in ICU Second time. (In some young people with no comorbities)"

That is not at all what I've been reading. I have only heard of a single US case where a young man caught it twice and more severely the second time. Normally people, especially young people, have a level of immunity for some time!

But please do provide evidence of your statement!

@Tiredeyesneedsleep

"The preliminary cases of reinfection that I’ve studied show a pattern of mild case first time and severe case with hospitalisation in ICU Second time. (In some young people with no comorbities)"

Interesting, can you share a source that shows that is anything other than an absolutely minute risk please?

I’m afraid I’m not an epidemiologist (are you? If so, please elaborate!) so don’t study risks in that macro way.

My interest lies in genetics and microbiology.

Credentials: microbiology degree, worked in research on combating infectious diseases through gene sequencing

@DartmoorWilderness

So nothing to backup you outlandish scaremongering?

I am shocked

@Lemonsyellow

What tier are you both in? Why did she get a test? Her flat mate testing positive isn’t a reason for her getting a test. Unless she paid privately. Has she actually tested positive?

Many universities are using their own labs to test their students.

No need for 'children' to be in inverted commas, they are still your children even if they're grown up. Their wellbeing should be of greater importance than it is.
There was another thread about a mum who didnt want to collect her daughter from uni who had real issues because she didnt want to risk her younger children; they don't suddenly stop needing your love and support when they hit 18.

@DartmoorWilderness

In that case please don't make such outlandish claims.

@sonnenscheins

The preliminary cases of reinfection that I’ve studied show a pattern of mild case first time and severe case with hospitalisation in ICU Second time. (In some young people with no comorbities)"

That is not at all what I've been reading. I have only heard of a single US case where a young man caught it twice and more severely the second time. Normally people, especially young people, have a level of immunity for some time!

But please do provide evidence of your statement!

As far as I’m aware there are 6 confirmed reinfections (with more suspected but not peer reviewed) including the 25 year old American- there are plenty of Lancet papers (couple weeks old now) discussing reinfection/viral shedding etc:

www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30764-7/fulltext

If one of my kids was in this situation and I knew their mental health wasn’t great I wouldn’t even need to consult strangers on the internet. They would be already packing their bags.

And six confirmed reinfection cases out of 43 MILLION cases world wide. Stop with the scare mongering.

I don't think this needs to be quite so divisive and dramatic as op isn't talking about abandoning a suicidal child it's more about the difference of a day or two. I've a close friend who's recently had it and although she luckily had it mildly her close family (including middle aged parents) who don't live with her also caught it and the knock on effect of the spread (she's also a teacher) was quite alarming - so I would err on the side of caution and wait 14 days from the positive test just to be on the safe side. It's also the potential disruption in terms of work etc even if a small chance of her coming home carrying something , also then you can all totally relax when she comes home

Thanks for the Lancet link of the of the US case study of a case of possible reinfection. Very interesting.

I can't really understand why you're asking this. This is your child and it is impossible to eliminate all risk. Let her come home.

If you are concerned for yourself and your husband (and I do get that, I'm older than you) then socially distance as much as possible in the house, no hugs etc, for a few days until you feel more confident.

@Tiredeyesneedsleep

"The preliminary cases of reinfection that I’ve studied show a pattern of mild case first time and severe case with hospitalisation in ICU Second time. (In some young people with no comorbities)"

Interesting, can you share a source that shows that is anything other than an absolutely minute risk please?

@DartmoorWilderness

Yes I'd also love to see the actual science (e.g peer reviewed journal article) that covers this.

I think I'll be waiting a long time.

If she’s able to go about her normal business I’d let her come home.

The government are way over stepping the mark with things like talk about “allowing” students home for Christmas. They are our children not theirs, they don’t own us.

Where is the evidence of “mass reinfection” being likely? I thought that out of the tens/hundreds of millions of cases there were a tiny number of proven reinfections?

Don’t think about it twice
Get her home and give her some tlc

Reinfection with COVID is pretty much an established fact now and not really that uncommon although infections tend to be months apart- I've never heard of back to back . The reason only six cases have been proven worldwide is that to "prove" a true reinfection you need someone to sequence the viral genome for the first and second infections to show that they are different. Anyone here had the viral genome if their first infection sequenced? No? Well, if you catch it again in 6 months you wont be a proven case if reinfection either.

If you are happy to accept 2 positive tests, months apart, as "proof" of reinfection then there are plenty of cases world wide.

@MadameBlobby

If she’s able to go about her normal business I’d let her come home.

The government are way over stepping the mark with things like talk about “allowing” students home for Christmas. They are our children not theirs, they don’t own us.

This.

They really don’t own us.

@Porcupineinwaiting

Reinfection with COVID is pretty much an established fact now and not really that uncommon although infections tend to be months apart- I've never heard of back to back . The reason only six cases have been proven worldwide is that to "prove" a true reinfection you need someone to sequence the viral genome for the first and second infections to show that they are different. Anyone here had the viral genome if their first infection sequenced? No? Well, if you catch it again in 6 months you wont be a proven case if reinfection either.

If you are happy to accept 2 positive tests, months apart, as "proof" of reinfection then there are plenty of cases world wide.

What six out of 43 MILLON