To start with, it was thought only 20% of people got symptoms. What do they think now?

[OwlOne]

Just thinking back to that assumption from the start of all this. Did they ever update that statistic?

I wonder if it is that at time of testing they don't have symptoms, but then go on to develop them in subsequent days. Don't know if they've followed through the apparently asymptomatic cases.

www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/oct/symptoms-covid-19-are-poor-marker-infection

Yes, if they got it later, was that update processed??

Just read that the 80% figure came from that cruise ship so that would be fairly accurate i think.

For months i have not worried and since i read that 50-60 year old women are the most likely to get long covid brain fog, i have started to feel a bit anxious again, being 50.

@Arcadia

I wonder if it is that at time of testing they don't have symptoms, but then go on to develop them in subsequent days. Don't know if they've followed through the apparently asymptomatic cases.

Thanks @arcadia Looks like it is still the case that most (?) people dont get symptoms. I know transmission is the issue. But just feeling anxious about being unable to do my job. Worrying about getting it BAD even though most people get it mildly. I am going to carry on handwashing and wearing masks. Dont know why i suddenly felt so worried about getting long covid!! Havent got normal covid!

I know why you are worried about getting Long Covid. The government want you to be worried about Long Covid to increase compliance and are encouraging MSM to flood the media with talk of how common and terrible it is. New Long Covid clinics, famous people with Long Covid, and so on.

Owlone are you also worried about Fibromyalgia or ME?

“MSM” oh for fucks sake

Qanon shite

Minimaxi sorry to disappoint you but I'm not walking the streets carrying placard saying Save the Children
If you can't see that people are being manipulated by the mainstream media in this country, then more fool you. Of course the government also use other mediums, such as insta and FB but I think the BBC and most radio stations do a fabulous job of keeping up the momentum.

🤦‍♀️

Have you spoken to people who have long COVID @Treesofwood? Do you think they are fictional?

I have diagnoses of ME and fibromyalgia. Why shouldn’t people be concerned about it? Having ME and / or fibromyalgia is bloody dreadful - it has affected every single area of my life negatively for over a decade. I’m not surprised people don’t want to end up like this.

We have a very manipulative media in this country, but that doesn’t mean this isn’t a valid concern...

If it’s women aged 50-60 most likely to suffer brain fog, how do they distinguish this from the brain fog often associated with the menopause In women of this age ?

There is quite a bit of emerging evidence that oestrogen is protective. You could go on HRT @OwlOne as something you can actually DO to help if you were to catch COVID. Or even less 'invasive' high cholesterol also seems to be an issue for how badly you suffer, so you switch up your diet to reduce your cholesterol.

Thanks @Clareflairmare is that just the bad cholesterol? I eat a lot of avocados and nuts and I presume that's ok.
I avoid sugar because I fell down an Ivor Cummins echo chamber recently and I seem to believe that avoiding sugar will help.

I hadn't known about the link to oestrogen. Obviously being 50 and not on HRT I cannot have an over abundance of oestrogen!

I can't imagine telling my gp that I'd like to go on HRT even though I feel fine because I don't want to get long covid! They poo poo everything until it's in a text book they can blow the dust off. YKWIM

@Treesofwood

Owlone are you also worried about Fibromyalgia or ME?

No.

Approximately 20% of asymptomatic people who test positive for COVID-19 will remain symptom-free over time, according to two studies published September 22 in different journals. The researchers propose, therefore, that most asymptomatic patients should be considered presymptomatic.

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/938195

Yes, pre-symptomatic rather than asymptomatic. Makes sense.
So it's the reverse of the stat that was put out to begin with.

They didn't know. Not blaming any govts or cdc or who. they didn't know.

The distinction between pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic is crucial. Some of the stats posted on this thread are misleading as a result.

Among Uni freshers about 90% of positive cases are asymptomatic!

Don't know the figures for older age groups.

I think the problem is the symptoms can be so vague. Alot of people dont have the main 3 symptoms. Many people would just overlook a headache, bad throat, diarrhea etc

In the tested student population at Northumbria, aprox 10% were symptomatic from the positive results.
BBC reporting here. I know they carried on testing, and got a bucket load more positives, but havn't seen the symptomatic/ asymptomatic split for that data.

@Treesofwood

I know why you are worried about getting Long Covid. The government want you to be worried about Long Covid to increase compliance and are encouraging MSM to flood the media with talk of how common and terrible it is. New Long Covid clinics, famous people with Long Covid, and so on.

In fairness to the Gov and the MSM it's not really their fault is it?

They can only do as their Lizard masters tell them to, while 5G is still broadcasting.

Back to the OP.

My understanding is that it's no so much that 80%ish of cases are asymptomatic, it's that 80%ish are very mild and the possible symptoms are so varied that it's almost impossible to tell Covid from the other 100s of other cold/flu viruses, without a test unless you get the characteristic cough or loss of smell.

We are catching more than 20% now but if you just feel a bit weary, have diarrhea or have a constant sore throat you probably wouldn't bother getting tested.

I honestly haven't got a notion how 5 g ties in with covid

@raddledoldmisanthropist

I honestly haven't got a notion how 5 g ties in with covid

It's one of the conspiracy theories about what's causing it. They switch the masts on and then tell us to lock down when They want to change the batteries in the birds.