Are you NHS staff? Will you or won't you be getting the vaccination?

[CovidStoleTheRainbow]

My apologies if there's already a thread. I did have a look and couldn't see one.

If you're NHS staff in a hospital will you get the covid vaccine?

If you will, what reassures you that it's safe?

If you won't get it, why not?

I work in a hospital but come Jan, I will be a community nurse so I'm not sure whether I will be very high up on the list (compared to A&E or HDU staff).

It's not licensed though.They are going to bring it out before it gets licensed
They are going to manufacture it before it gets licensed, not the same as giving people an untested drug which is what you imply.

Sorry to intrude and ask a slightly off topic question, but you are the people that would know! The last vaccine update I read said that it injected a small amount of covid to.promote an immune response. So far so normal. But it didn't say that the covid had been killed, in which case, is it a live vaccine? I'm really hoping I'm mis-reading this, or they have designed a vaccine that many of the vulnerable can't have. I must have got that wrong surely?

Absolutely will I be having it. Frontline nhs staff and want to return to normal as soon as possible.
I believe in vaccination as crucial in the protection against communicable diseases.

It's really depressing to see people say 'I'm not high risk so won't be getting it'. You know the point is for low risk staff to be vaccinated so they don't pass it on to high risk patients. I know someone who currently goes into hospital for chemo and is immunocompromised, it's terrifying to think that some staff looking after them may refuse the vaccine and put them at more risk.

All the frontline staff who think they've already had it - have you had antibody test DS (NHS but not frontline) was sure he'd had it but antibody test was negative?
I do realise that a positive antibody test doesn't mean you have immunity just as a negative one doesn't conclusively prove you haven't had it. Just curious.

[quote OpheliasCrayon]@MiniMum97 ^ now I'm worried that post sounded arsey! I wasn't meaning to be. I'm just saying it's a fairly lengthy explanation which is a few posts on from my first!! Sorry. I'm fucking this up here![/quote]
No it didn't sound arsey at all! Sorry if my reply was a bit blunt and gave you that impression.

I've read your follow on posts and completely understand why you would be concerned about having this vaccine, or any medication really.

Sounds like a complete nightmare the way you react to meds. 💐

I did wonder if I had it back in March as I had a bad cough and felt like my chest was crushing but my antibody test was negative so I assume it wasn't.

I did have the awful bug that went around at Christmas that caused the awful cough and high temp. I don't think that was Covid (as many people do) as although it was an awful cough I don't think it caused the severe respiratory symptoms in the clinically vulnerable like Covid does,

I’ve already got antibodies, so not sure if there is any point in me having it.

I don’t have any major objection to having it if the trust insist on it. I won’t be pushing my way to the front of the queue though.

NHS staff, I will 100% be taking it when offered, as I do my flu jab every year too.
I am a vaccine non-responder to some of the jabs I've had to have (hep B, MMR) so it might not even be any use to me, but I have to take that chance. I'm better having it because I might respond to it than not having it and definitely not responding to it.

@MiniMum97 tis always hard to tell online what was arsey or not but neither of us were being. And yes it's a bloody nightmare! Chronic illnesses which I basically can't treat. But I did have covid in march and thankfully it was mild - as I'm on the shielding list (and didn't sheild) so it was good to know from the beginning that when I did get it (and I assume I can get it again) it wasn't bad.

NerrSnerr I had that virus too, back in early February, and was sick for about six weeks. I haven’t had any other viral illnesses or fevers, but I’ve been antibody positive since at least May (AFAIK it is unusual to have such a long-lasting antibody response for asymptomatic infection). So I do think it was covid. Obviously nobody was testing back then.

@housemdwaswrong

Sorry to intrude and ask a slightly off topic question, but you are the people that would know! The last vaccine update I read said that it injected a small amount of covid to.promote an immune response. So far so normal. But it didn't say that the covid had been killed, in which case, is it a live vaccine? I'm really hoping I'm mis-reading this, or they have designed a vaccine that many of the vulnerable can't have. I must have got that wrong surely?

The Oxford vaccine is an attenuated (non-replicating) modified chimp cold virus. The Pfizer one is a mRNA vaccine. Neither of them is SARS-COV-2.

@wiseupJanetWeiss

It is fine then. I figured I must be wrong, but couldn't find the info anywhere. Good news. Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Oh. Maybe not. Is attenuated classed as a live vaccine? Have I misunderstood that too? Non replicating is good though. In. ayman terms, would an immunocompromised person that should not have live vaccines be able to have it?

It is strange to contemplate that we could have 70% take up, but when people land in the UK from countries where they didn't have access to the vaccine, they could cause hotspots again. The importance of track and trace won't disappear. I wonder if New Zealand will allow unvaccinated people in? Assuming they embrace the vaccine themselves.

And vice-versa of course. If you are someone who refuses the vaccine, will that make you ineligible to travel to most countries? No more holidays in Europe due to your choice? Perhaps testing pre-travel and at airports will become very sophisticated by then.

Best in mind that no-one knows who anyone is on Mumsnet, and all these people claiming to be frontline NHS not getting the vaccine could well just be being disruptive. Anti-vax people are crazy enough to do that.

Frontline NHS, I'll be getting it, but I also know of colleagues who won't be.

I won't be haranguing them about it as I believe in body autonomy.

It is going to be very interesting to see what take up is like considering the anti-truth, anti-science, anti-expert agendas of the administration in both the UK and the US. And the swallowing whole of the same by the stupid media and the gullible people.

Personally I'm an essential worker, working the whole time, and I'll be hoping they offer it next to all the other key workers after the health care professionals.

It should go without saying that pregnancy women and people with pre-existing issues with vaccines wouldn't have to take it. They don't trial on those people either.

You know NHS staff wear badges saying "I've had the flu jab" - will it be the same for covid? What will they do about unvaccinated staff members? I would be beyond if I or a family member were infected by someone who had close contact with patients. Perhaps unvaccinated staff would have to continue to wear mask/PPE if they refused the vaccine.

In some of Europe and US states children cannot go to state schools if they are not vaccinated for certain diseases.

I can't imagine worldwide travel returning if unvaccinated people are allowed to roam the globe and bugger things up again.

In some of Europe and US states children cannot go to state schools if they are not vaccinated for certain diseases.

Not here though! I would imagine it’ll be the same with Covid.

I think it's realistic that the US at least will refuse visa waivers to anyone who has not been vaccinated. Interesting times...

Front line NHS here and I'll definitely be having it. I feel a bit anxious about being in the first wave of people being vaccinated but it wouldn't stop me. We have a responsibility greater than any other people.

That said, I do think it'll become a contractual obligation - just like hep b is etc.

If they can develop a virus against this strain of coronavirus in what is a fairly short space of time,why have they not yet developed a virus for HIV? or have they and ive missed the news?