Are you NHS staff? Will you or won't you be getting the vaccination?

[CovidStoleTheRainbow]

My apologies if there's already a thread. I did have a look and couldn't see one.

If you're NHS staff in a hospital will you get the covid vaccine?

If you will, what reassures you that it's safe?

If you won't get it, why not?

I work in a hospital but come Jan, I will be a community nurse so I'm not sure whether I will be very high up on the list (compared to A&E or HDU staff).

@frumpety
Yes maybe... But I thought it wasnt super definiteve that it was the cause. Plus it wasn't something that took years to materialize
www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcolepsy-flu.html

I'm a teacher and highly doubt I'll be offered the vaccine but I'd have it, definitely.

@Hairyfairy01, all of the ingredients used have been used in other vaccines for at least seven years.

They've started to try to infect testers with Covid. As far as I've read the issue is that they can't put vulnerable people at risk to test it. So we need the younger, healthy population to have the vaccine.

We will only run at around 50% coverage, but in some groups it will only be 20/30% because the vaccine doesn't work as well in older people. If we get 70% take up, only 56% of that will be adequately vaccinated. So unless we want this to continue, we need everyone to be vaccined. I've heard scientists/medical statisticians say that we need to take as many unvaccinated people out of frontline roles as possible for a few winters to come.

I work in Critical Care and yes, I will be in the queue for my jab.

I applied to be part of the trial but was turned down because I don't drive, but about a dozen people that I work with have had it - I know some of them will have received a placebo, but none have had any side effects beyond the normal flu vaccine ie sore arm, aches and tiredness. We've already been asked to sign a consent form so that the trust has an idea what take up will be like, so I'll definitely be having it.

I suppose I feel better about it having seen people who have already had it

I've heard scientists/medical statisticians say that we need to take as many unvaccinated people out of frontline roles as possible for a few winters to come.

Crivens, do you think they actually would? I can see the logic of course but that's a pretty big deal.
Were they saying it as in "in the ideal world..." kind of way? Or in a serious "this is what needs to happen" kind of way?

Well I'm a teacher and I would definitely not want it. No chance !!

Primary care, will probably be administering it.
I have the antibodies (currently) so will probably hang fire and see how it pans out first. Selfish maybe. But I prioritise my health and wellbeing over that of others.

[quote hettie]@ThroughThickAndThin01 Do you mind me asking why you wouldn't want it? Is it related to why you've never wanted the flu vaccine?[/quote]
I’m not medical therefore will no doubt come across as naive but I have an uncomfortable mix of knowing vaccinations are essential mostly/not entirely trusting them.Both dh and mil were offered thalidomide during their pregnancies and thank god declined, so mistrust of untrialled modern medicine probably stems from that. I have never had flu, very rarely ill, and haven’t seen a need to have a flu jab. COVID trials just haven’t gone on for long enough IMO.

I did have all my dc vaccinated at the appropriate times but only after extensive conversations with GP/dentist friends, and never taken lightly.

Yes I’m NHS staff and no I won’t be having it.

They have a hard enough job trying to get me to have the Flu vaccine, never mind this.

I am really hoping this thread isn’t representative of the population, or we will take several years to get back to anything like normal.

I'll be first in the queue for the vaccine. My job is going into care homes and I am currently living in fear of being the cause of a care home outbreak (even though I wear PPE, only work in designated areas etc).

I’m not medical therefore will no doubt come across as naive but I have an uncomfortable mix of knowing vaccinations are essential mostly/not entirely trusting them.Both dh and mil were offered thalidomide during their pregnancies and thank god declined, so mistrust of untrialled modern medicine probably stems from that. I have never had flu, very rarely ill, and haven’t seen a need to have a flu jab. COVID trials just haven’t gone on for long enough IMO.

What would it take to convince you? You sound thoughtful and this clearly isn’t a knee-jerk reaction, but it’s an uninformed view. You’re not taking into account the fact that a significant proportion of our medicines licensing legislation arises directly as a result of lessons learned from the thalidomide disaster.

@WiseUpJanetWeiss

I am really hoping this thread isn’t representative of the population, or we will take several years to get back to anything like normal.

Me too. So many harsh restrictions on patients in hospitals to stem the risk of outbreaks, but staff are happy to swan about enforcing those rules while potentially spreading the the virus themselves.

This guy is worth a follow for up to date vaccine education. Here’s his summary from a few weeks ago. I think the more people understand the easier the decision perhaps.

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1310372301314101250.html

There’s a thread on here about someone who’s dad went in for a bladder problem, late 60s, caught covid in hospital and died a few days later. Why would you not want to help prevent instances of them? We know staff are the biggest transmission vector in that setting.

I will have it, absolutely.

OP I don’t think there will be a list for NHS staff, once it’s available for frontline staff it will be available for all. Working in the community puts you at just as much risk of exposure to the virus as in the hospital. Covid presents atypically in older people so you will almost certainly be treating patients who are positive but they and you won’t know it. That plus you’ll be going into houses with multiple unmasked multi-generational family members too.
Covid ripped through my DN team in April like wildfire, it was awful.
Enjoy your new job though (honestly), working in the community is fantastic
And now I will have to hide this thread as the thought of reading a load of posts from degree educated HCPs who don’t understand how vaccines or vaccine trails work is more than I can bear on this nice Sunday morning.

NHS clinician. I will crawl over broken glass to get this vaccine, when it's available.

As I do exposure prone procedures then Hep B vaccination has been compulsory for me for my whole career, along with HIV testing when changing roles. I would have no issue at all with this being treated similarly for any clinician working with high-risk patients.

Im NHS but not frontline so wont be in the first group of people to be offered it. I'll have it when offered i think.

I'm NHS and I'll definitely be in the queue for the vaccine. Apart from anything else I want to protect my elderly parents.

I think we won’t get a choice
It’ll be a case of ‘sorry your indemnity isn’t valid without it’. Or ‘ our liability insurance won’t cover unvaccinated employees’

This is already the case with hep b tetanus etc

For all the NHS staff who wouldn’t get the vaccine, are you happy for the NHS to get back to normal once the vaccine has been rolled out to NHS staff and the vulnerable if you’ve chosen not to have it? By normal I mean no patient masks, normal waiting rooms, all services back to normal, normal visiting rules.

I am an NHS frontline worker and I won’t be having it - my choice.

I will be at the front of the queue when it's rolled out and I will be having it.

@ThroughThickAndThin01 You know what that sounds really understandable. A lack of trust and some fear stemming from what was a tragic and massive mistake by the medical and scientific community (thalidomide). I guess I would say the balance to that is that modern science/medicine has improved and saved billions of lives with its advances. Ever industry makes mistakes, look at the washing machines that catch fire, Boeing and it's planes that killed people, food safety cock ups etc. There are small risks every time we walk out the house because of decisions others have taken. For me I worry about the things that are statistically likely (kids getting run over, always been very hot on road safety with mine)