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‘Education tiers’ for schools - London

58 replies

CallmeFP · 23/10/2020 11:21

Just had an email from school saying Govt has required schools to set out Education tiers in response to Coronavirus, detailing what’ll happen with different tiers.

Even though London is tier 2, the education tier is still 1 Hmm

So if we move on to Tier 2 only year 7, 12 and 13 will be allowed on site.

Anyone else had this?

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CallmeFP · 23/10/2020 11:25

Apologies, Tier 2 would see year groups other than 7, 12 and 13 doing blended learning on a rota basis.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot · 23/10/2020 11:30

Why Year 7??

Shouldn't it be 11, 12, 13? Plus 10 if poss. To cover those for whom the clock is ticking for public exams

MarshaBradyo · 23/10/2020 11:33

Leaving out year 11 is crazy as they are close to exams.

Just looked and all ours says is we’d do one week at home and other at school in tier 2 (DfE). But doesn’t say which students.

Aragog · 23/10/2020 11:35

I assume they've put y7 there for any potential child care issues, as 11 would be borderline for needing supervision if at home all day.

But what about year 11s due to sit exams? Surely,they should be high priority - arguably over year 12s.
And year 10 should be the same level as year 12 - both first year of exams.

I work in an infant school. Presumably we will be open regardless. I can't see anything happening now, leading to full school closures for primary.

Coasterfan · 23/10/2020 11:38

Is this just London or all of England? My daughter is year 8 I agree years 8 and 9 should be the year groups to have home learning if they need to reduce numbers but what about year 10 and 11? Surely year 11 should take priority over year 12?

doubleshotespresso · 23/10/2020 11:46

I'm losing the will to live with this. I wish they'd stop messing about with graphs and charts and tier systems which all confirm what we already know. Do the bloody circuit break-fully- and then let us please get on with life.
The constant speculation and misinformation covering up the obvious is beyond tedious now. Families in London and everywhere else in the UK have suffered enough, I wish they'd do the responsible thing and just do what's needed, the numbers are clearly not in our favour.

MarshaBradyo · 23/10/2020 11:47

Tier 2 for education is pretty far off for London though. (Different to regular tiers)

I’m not sure it’s in place anywhere in NW yet?

UrbanDox · 23/10/2020 11:48

The tier 2 guidance is below from 28th August. I think it is up to individual schools to plan the rota system. Confusing to me as it seems schools are in tiers and local areas are now in tiers, but they don't correlate.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-schools-can-plan-for-tier-2-local-restrictions/how-schools-can-plan-for-tier-2-local-restrictions

SpringSunshineandTulips · 23/10/2020 12:20

Strange. Would have thought 11 and 13 priority with 10 and 12 following closely behind. Although I have a year 7 and will be pleased if she can go.

I guess it’s the same as last school year when reception and yr 1 were prioritised over year 6. Think it was due to safeguarding but felt wrong that year 6 barely got to go back.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 23/10/2020 12:24

Wow. I assumed the gov still expected everyone on all the time.

herecomesthsun · 23/10/2020 12:24

It may also be that they want year 7 to form a bond with the school, as they would only just have made the transition to secondary (in most settings). Otherwise, if they don't engage now, it might have repercussions further down the line.

Poor kids, they have missed out on a lot of the settling in from year 6 to year 7.

As pp said, they also are a bit young to be at home if both parents are working.

Char2015 · 23/10/2020 12:37

Yes, our academy (all through nursery - sixth form) in London has emailed us about this too.

Tier 2 : Primary, Years 11 and 13, keyworker/vulnerable secondary students in school full time. Other years blended learning with two weeks on, two weeks off.

Tier 3 : Primary, keyworker/vulnerable secondary students in school full time. Secondary at home doing work.

Tier 4: Primary and secondary keyworker/vulnerable students in school full time only. All other students primary and secondary students to do school work at home.

Work at home will be a variety off online live lessons, narrated powerpoints, work booklets and worksheets, online resources.

Sounds like schools are making their own decisions as to how to implement tier 2 system.

herecomesthsun · 23/10/2020 12:39

It's promising that there are arrangements being thought through.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 23/10/2020 12:41

Isnt london already in tier 2?

MarshaBradyo · 23/10/2020 12:43

Pineapple there are two versions

Tier 2 - DfE guidelines afaik no area has implemented

Included rota and has since about August in guidelines

Schools are responding with their own pattern of teaching

Beebityboo · 23/10/2020 12:45

Do you know if anyone not in London is getting emails about this?

Qasd · 23/10/2020 12:45

Wow so they are going to shut schools on a region basis?! The education gaps in a few years time will be interesting.

Have to say I think they will see a move out of the cities for this, we would have to consider it if dd can get an education in Surrey and not in London.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 23/10/2020 12:47

Right so 2 different schemes, both called tiers?!

Do we know what would lead to tier 2 education? Or even the criteria schools have to use to work this out?

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 23/10/2020 12:48

Qasd. You'd change school over a few months change to provision? Id say thats risky as presumabky neighbouring areas could move up tiers too.

Qasd · 23/10/2020 12:48

And I know I say this every time but we do have to stop saying”blended learning”...most teenagers ate not capable of self teaching themselves the curriculum if they were we wouldn’t have schools to start with! Let’s call it what it is shutting schools for huge portions of children and hoping that it will not have an impact!

MarshaBradyo · 23/10/2020 12:49

@Qasd

Wow so they are going to shut schools on a region basis?! The education gaps in a few years time will be interesting.

Have to say I think they will see a move out of the cities for this, we would have to consider it if dd can get an education in Surrey and not in London.

London is not doing this yet. We are under 100 per 100k.

Even in areas up to 600 whatever aren’t doing it.

And hopefully tier 2 will slow things.

We’ve had no closures yet and better than in March

The names are confusing for sure

MarshaBradyo · 23/10/2020 12:50

@PineappleUpsideDownCake

Right so 2 different schemes, both called tiers?!

Do we know what would lead to tier 2 education? Or even the criteria schools have to use to work this out?

Yep I know very confusing

I assume LA will decide not school but no indication yet of when

HipTightOnions · 23/10/2020 12:52

@Qasd

And I know I say this every time but we do have to stop saying”blended learning”...most teenagers ate not capable of self teaching themselves the curriculum if they were we wouldn’t have schools to start with! Let’s call it what it is shutting schools for huge portions of children and hoping that it will not have an impact!
This may be your low expectation of blended learning but it’s not mine, or my school’s. We would be expected to teach the full curriculum, in the usual sequence and timescales, some in school and some remotely.
TW2013 · 23/10/2020 12:58

We got an email saying that they have new directions from the DfE and will update us soon. Honestly yr11 should be in if at all possible or admit defeat on GCSEs and move to continuous assessment. Yr7 could be select in, so a child who has a parent at home, or older sibling or clinically vulnerable in the household stays home while those who really want/ need to go in can follow the lessons in supervised groups.

CallmeFP · 23/10/2020 13:09

No mention of Year 11 - it says year 7 missed a significant chunk of their primary education so they’ll be in full time as normal in Tier 2.

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