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Covid

Would you take the vaccine for COVID if it became available?

246 replies

weltonn · 22/10/2020 00:48

I'm undecided. Would you?

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dizzyness · 22/10/2020 21:54

No way. Just no.

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NeverAMillionMilesAway · 22/10/2020 22:07

I honestly don't know. Likely yes, but dependant on how large the trials have been, how effective it seems to be, and possible side effects.

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PuzzledObserver · 22/10/2020 22:11

Once the rollout starts, there will be three categories of people who won’t have been vaccinated:

  1. Those who don’t want it
  2. Those who can’t have it for medical reasons
  3. Those who want it but haven’t been offered it yet.

    If people in category 1 catch Covid and have a bad outcome, that is sad, but it’s what they knew they were risking.

    People in categories 2 and 3 have my utmost sympathy. How sad would it be if they caught it from someone in category 1?
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Toothsil · 22/10/2020 23:13

Yes, as long as it had been properly tested.

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bert3400 · 22/10/2020 23:16

Yes yes and yes again

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Pollypockett23 · 22/10/2020 23:28

No

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FinallyFluid · 22/10/2020 23:35

Like a shot.

I have ring fenced money for us to have it done privately if needs be.

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Lourdes12 · 31/10/2020 14:05

Does anyone remember this: Dozens of NHS workers were fighting for compensation after developing narcolepsy from a swine flu vaccine that was rushed into service without the usual testing when the disease spread across the globe in 2009. They say it has destroyed their careers and their health.This was the case for a lot of young children too. They have had their lives destroyed. Who knows what it's going to be this time round

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Lourdes12 · 31/10/2020 14:06

There is no test group for children

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Lourdes12 · 31/10/2020 14:09

Johnson & Johnson to begin human trials of COVID-19 vaccine in the second half of July

Johnson & Johnson to pay $4.7bn damages in talc cancer case

Sounds promising

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Dongdingdong · 31/10/2020 14:10

If it’s from China then absolutely NOT.

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Lourdes12 · 02/11/2020 21:40

No never. Vaccines accumulate in our bone marrow over time and will gradually deteriorate human health. It's best to get natural immunity and not genetically modified immunity. If we had a normal gut flora we may be able to fight covid better as our immune system is in our gut. It's funny how people keep consuming things which destroys their gut flora like processed carbs, sugar, alcohol, processed oils, processed foods, veg with pesticide poisoning etc. On top of that using air fresheners, defusers and anti bacterial products which is destroying their gut. They just want a magical cure. If we want to stand any chance against covid we have to eat our natural diet. Hardly anyone does anymore.

Dozens of NHS workers are fighting for compensation after developing narcolepsy from a swine flu vaccine that was rushed into service without the usual testing when the disease spread across the globe in 2009. They say it has destroyed their careers and their health. This was the case for many children and young adults too.

Business of Sport
Johnson & Johnson to pay $4.7bn damages in talc cancer case. Same company having to pause vaccine trials after unexplained illness.

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pinpinbin · 03/11/2020 01:17

Er ......... our immune system is in our bloodstream.
Immune responses are caused by antigenic challenge, whatever that is, natural virus, bacteria, vaccine, whatever, it doesn't make any difference if that's something coded for by natural or synthetic DNA/RNA, as it's to the antigen not the genetic material.

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Didkdt · 03/11/2020 02:10

I would my dad won't at this stage. We are both considered extremely clinically vulnerable and were shielded for different reasons.
I don't feel I have much to loose but plenty to gain especially when you balance the risk of side effects and what they are with Covid and long covid.
I do understand the concerns but I'm currently living between a rock and a hard place I have 2 young children and a husband whose job puts him at high risk of exposure.
I want my family to be able to relax and not be so worried I want to shore up my chances of survival.

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BluePeterVag · 03/11/2020 02:17

No.

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Dan1980 · 03/11/2020 02:18

@larrygrylls

Yes.

Replace a 1/1,000 risk (plus a 1/4 risk of being quite ill for quite a while) with a 1/10,000 (or far less) risk of a serious vaccine side effect. Not even a question.

With the added boost of helping others and improving the economy Anyone who would not take it would need to have a very good reason for me to not just consider them an ignoramus.

Calling people an " ignoramus" for not wanting to inject a foreign body into them from a government which continually lies and contradicts itself with scientists who cant agree with each other says much more about your IQ than the people you condemn . I'm not sure where you get those made up risk stats from either
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notangelinajolie · 03/11/2020 02:20

Hell yes.

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Dan1980 · 03/11/2020 02:20

@PuzzledObserver

Once the rollout starts, there will be three categories of people who won’t have been vaccinated:

1) Those who don’t want it
2) Those who can’t have it for medical reasons
3) Those who want it but haven’t been offered it yet.

If people in category 1 catch Covid and have a bad outcome, that is sad, but it’s what they knew they were risking.

People in categories 2 and 3 have my utmost sympathy. How sad would it be if they caught it from someone in category 1?

I think category 4 of healthy people at no risk of dying from covid getting complications from a vaccine is worse than all the others put together
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Dan1980 · 03/11/2020 02:35

[quote Moondust001]@toxtethOgradyUSA

You said, and I quote "Of course it has been bloody rushed! Talk to anybody involved off the record and they would admit that in a hearbeat." That is a statement, not an opinion. There is no evidence to support that statement, so you are peddling disinformation and fake news. You have no evidence, and there is not a shred of evidence anywhere, to support your claim.[/quote]
Of course it's been rushed, the fact you think otherwise is quite ridiculous. Billions of dollars/pounds are lost each year from employees taking time off work for the common cold - you know a corona infection there is no cure or vaccine for. Medicine is not as advanced as you think regardless of how much money is thrown at it and with anti bodies declining rapidly after contracting covid why you think any vaccine even if safe would work I've no idea.

Unless you are in a very high risk group, you would have to be insane to take it IMO with the risks of the vaccine exceeding the actual disease.

How about people take responsibility for their own health and stop demanding healthy young people need to inject their own bodies to protect a tiny group of people that can make their own decisions on whether to take the vaccine or not. No one should be demanding what another person does to their own body.. it's quickly becoming a society of no free will and complete subservience to the state and mindless sheep who follow unquestioningly .

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SunscreenCentral · 03/11/2020 02:39

If it meant I could travel within the next say 6 months, yes, yes I would

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Dan1980 · 03/11/2020 02:44

@Moondust001

Taking a vaccine is not just about self-protection. It the the route to the much discussed herd immunity, and protects everybody. With a high enough level of immunisation, transmission is suppressed. Vaccines do not prevent people from getting infections, nor do they eliminate infections. They build the herd immunity whereby the ability of a virus to transmit is disrupted. So those who say "I'm not at risk so I won't" are really selfish, and far worse than the people I am sure they attack for not wearing masks or breaking lockdown rules. They are hypocrites.

I am certainly not in favour of forcing people to do anything. But anyone refusing the vaccine when it is available to them should not have the protection of society either - they should have to continue to wear masks, they should have to socially distance and not visit or mix with people indoors. Because they become to the risk to everyone else. Since they are so happy for everyone to have to continue to live like that for their own selfish ends, it shouldn't be too hard for them to continue to do so.

And in answer, not only will I, but I already have. I volunteered the minute it was possible, and was called up a few weeks ago. Because even a trial vaccine is far safer, and the odds far better, than many other things that are risky about life, and I happen to believe that contributing to knowledge and the welfare of the whole human race is worth something. Our ability to be selfless is supposed to be one of the factors that raise us above other animals. What a shame that it is in such short supply. Not surprising, but shameful.

"Our ability to be selfless is supposed to be one of the factors that raise us above other animals"

so is being able to make a decision what we inject into our bodies without some screeching maniac preaching from a pulpit of self virtue - it's called individual free will.

Out of curiosity do you smoke , drink or eat junk food? Those three factors will cause more hospital admissions in a persons life than covid ever will overstretching the NHS so maybe you can stop the pompous virtue signalling about what a great selfless person you are and wind your neck in
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Sunshinegirl82 · 03/11/2020 07:41

@Dan1980

It's frustrating that people don't seem to do any research at all into things before they make comments. Especially when it's about such an important topic.

There are perfectly understandable reasons why there is no current vaccine for coronaviruses in humans. "Colds" are caused by around 200 different types of virus of which 4 are coronaviruses. A vaccine against the 4 coronaviruses that cause colds would simply not have been financially viable for drug companies to develop when the end result would be marginally reducing the probability of contracting an illness that for the vast majority is no more than a slight inconvenience and which doesn't particularly burden the health service.

We have coronavirus vaccines for chickens and cows because it makes financial sense to do so (because those viruses can cause severe illness in those populations).

All of this has been explained fairly repeatedly by various scientists (including the ones actually developing the vaccines) and yet it still gets trotted out. It's very frustrating.

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KindnessCrusader · 03/11/2020 07:42

Yes.

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Dan1980 · 03/11/2020 11:44

[quote Sunshinegirl82]@Dan1980

It's frustrating that people don't seem to do any research at all into things before they make comments. Especially when it's about such an important topic.

There are perfectly understandable reasons why there is no current vaccine for coronaviruses in humans. "Colds" are caused by around 200 different types of virus of which 4 are coronaviruses. A vaccine against the 4 coronaviruses that cause colds would simply not have been financially viable for drug companies to develop when the end result would be marginally reducing the probability of contracting an illness that for the vast majority is no more than a slight inconvenience and which doesn't particularly burden the health service.

We have coronavirus vaccines for chickens and cows because it makes financial sense to do so (because those viruses can cause severe illness in those populations).

All of this has been explained fairly repeatedly by various scientists (including the ones actually developing the vaccines) and yet it still gets trotted out. It's very frustrating.

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If what you say is true, why do many leading scientists believe that there will be no vaccine and even if there is , it will be very unlikely to give long term immunity or even medium term immunity.

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IHTC · 03/11/2020 12:18

No ta

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