Why isn't there outrage over dropping from 60 million to 22?

[Gobacktothe90s]

Can't believe the govt are getting away from offering 60 million and then dropping to 22 million in order to make a example of Burnham and Manchester.
There should be outrage that if the govt felt they could offer 60 million then they should give it.
The fact Manchester is being offered less than other places is a disgrace

Greater Manchester have a right to be angry and the rest of us should be angry for them too

Months of oppressive restrictions in Tier 2,
businesses and people bleeding money,
now Tier 3 on not enough money

... and experts like SAGE saying Tier 3 won't work either
So more pain for no gain

OP because apparently it didn't happen that way.

Personally I think it's mean to order areas to be more careful about spreading a dangerous disease just because they have been spreading it more then every other place in the country.

Oh wait. That's a good reason.

"Months of oppressive restrictions in Tier 2" and still too many cases must mean that people were not obeying the restrictions.

It's not spread by magic.

It's not spread by magic.

Try telling that to Dominic Cummings

Manchester aren’t asking for more than other areas. They’re asking for the same amount per head. And their tier 3 demands more businesses close so more employees and businesses will need help than in other areas so logically it’d be fair to ask for a bit more. But they’re not, per head, they want the same.

@LastTrainEast

"Months of oppressive restrictions in Tier 2" and still too many cases must mean that people were not obeying the restrictions.

It's not spread by magic.

Or it could also mean that the restrictions were inadequate and targeted in the wrong area

@LastTrainEast

OP because apparently it didn't happen that way.

Personally I think it's mean to order areas to be more careful about spreading a dangerous disease just because they have been spreading it more then every other place in the country.

Oh wait. That's a good reason.

It’s not that simple. Cases were still too high in Greater Manchester when lockdown was eased but the country eased because the south was doing OK. Untargetted easing led to the cases growing, inadequate restrictions let it grow further.

Cases were still too high in Greater Manchester when lockdown was eased but the country eased because the south was doing OK. Untargetted easing led to the cases growing, inadequate restrictions let it grow further.

This ^^

The first lockdown was all based on southern numbers, and lo and behold financial support is provided. Now the North is in need its being withheld.

@lasttraineast it sounds like you are saying Northerners should be punished. Is that what you're saying?

People are fuming OP. I can’t understand why you think there isn’t outrage about this? Are you in the South?

There is outrage.

There should be given how much money conservatives have give to tory area i.e. Buckland's or other tory donors or Ferry companies with no ferries, PPE to companies with no track record of PPE set up by party donors...

According to Hancock, the 60m is still on the table

I live just south of Manchester, believe me, there's plenty of outrage.

@Boracora

Manchester aren’t asking for more than other areas. They’re asking for the same amount per head. And their tier 3 demands more businesses close so more employees and businesses will need help than in other areas so logically it’d be fair to ask for a bit more. But they’re not, per head, they want the same.

Not true. GM is being offered the same. AB wants £5m more.

In the meantime the infection rates continue to rise. Am pleased the decision has been made to go to T3 finally. Hopefully rates will start to stabilise in 2 weeks if people follow the rules.

I hate this north south divide narrative that has come from this. Don't fall for it. I live in a T1 area that is designated by the EU as one of the most deprived areas in Europe. It is south.

People here need their businesses open for as long as possible as well as people in the north.

No I'm in Manchester and I'm outraged people can't see what a disgrace this is.
Some of the comments I've seen on here are 'we deserve it for being greedy, we asked for too much after the arena bombing, we should have social distanced so this is what we get'.

Unbelievable that people aren't getting we aren't asking more we are being offered far less than Liverpool and Lancashire and we have a higher population.

I don't understand the pure nastiness from people revelling in the fact that we have been punished for trying to get adequate support for people in Manchester and why people would be against that.

I live in a T1 area that is designated by the EU as one of the most deprived areas in Europe. It is south

We also have deprivation, AND Manchester has been in T2 for weeks. Thats the difference.

He's asking for more, and saying the other areas ALSO need more, and he's right.
He's taking a stand here for the little people. Tier 2 for weeks has taken its toll. If you have been in T1 since lockdown you do not have grounds to criticise.

@Gobacktothe90s I don't think many MNers realise the truth of it all from what I've read, perhaps believing media and Tory spin that we 'deserve' being shat on somehow. I bet they're loving the new north south divide that's emerging. Loving people believe the lies they've peddled. We are greedy, AB is too demanding, Manc haven't complied etc etc. Gtr Manchester has had no time to recover after being in lockdown all summer and since March. Other areas have had breathing space. My business went to the wall long ago. Businesses need to pay staff more to top up the pitiful 67% furlough, but with what if they're making 0? Businesses close, people lose jobs and homes. That's the reality. Maybe MN is filled with midlanders, and southerners sitting safely behind a keyboard wfh on 100% wages. I don't know. I'm saddened by the vitriol spewing out from some posts I've read, as if all Gtr Manc residents are bringing it on ourselves.

I'm south Manc and my friends and family are either outraged or just plain ground down by it all. We've not socialised or been anywhere since March. Wearing masks, washing hands. Doing it all 'right' and for what? On the Manc subreddit yesterday there was talk of protests but not sure what's come of that.

If the £60m is still on the table, then its extremely poor communication by the government. Sending a text then saying that the £60m is on the table hours later is really disgraceful and lazy by the government.
If this is how they manage mayors of their own country, then how do they manage negotiations with the EU? We are truly screwed

People aren’t outraged because the £20m and £60m are two separate amounts, as has been pointed out numerous times. And the £60m is still on offer. As has been pointed out numerous times. But Andy’s merry band of chippy Mancs are too brainwashed to take that in.

I didn’t see anyone mention the arena bombing @Gobacktothe90s. Obviously if they did that’s disgusting but I can’t see it on here.

Andy B is a politician through and through. He’s not done a day of proper work in his life. He deliberately makes himself look like a scruffy northerner to appeal to those opposed to the so called elite in Westminster.

And you have the bbc to thank for how the south sees the north at the moment. They love pointing out all the social distance breaches going on in the north (weddings, parties, etc).

My understanding is that the 60 million is still available but will be allocated directly to the areas within greater Manchester thereby avoiding negotiations with AB. Clearly the GM area needs the same amount per head as any other area. And ASAP. Decisions then need to be made about whether that amount is enough - whichever area you are in. The government's negotiation skills are atrocious re this and brexit - no wonder things are in such a state 🤦🏼‍♀️

The supposed extra 60 million will go to the Tory MP's areas in Manchester.
6 Tory MP's who stood with Burnham have already written a letter to Burnham saying he has failed the people. Not Boris but Andy Burnham .
They are worse than Boris for trying to scrabble and claim a bigger share now by backstabbing Burnham .
#NeverTrustATory

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