We are fucked

[WindChimeTinkle]

The country is falling apart, mass unemployment looming, unrest, mental health crisis, education of a generation screwed, people in care homes isolated and alone......what the fucking hell is going on. I can't take anymore

The saddest part is people of my granny’s generation (late 90s) who had to live through the war and now this too. Poor sods.

Maybe we should emulate the actions of the countries who aren't living like us - or dying like us.

Just a thought.

Otherwise we have years more of this.

@rashalert thanks, you are right, this isn't helping me or anyone and I should probably step away and do something a bit more joyful and productive.

following. loved your post @Zaphodsotherhead 🤗

@79andnotout

You missed climate change. Everything else is pretty much irrelevant.

Humans are fucked.

This ^^. The sixth mass extinction is actually happening, what other impacts will we experience because of what we’ve done to the planet and all the other species that inhabit it?

www.pnas.org/content/117/24/13596

Things may seem bleak but people do adjust and make the best out of bad situations. I think at the moment it’s the unknown that’s making us all feel so on edge (for me anyway), I do fear for my teenagers futures and their mental health but we will find ways around things.

The mental health crisis is the thing that worries me the most, I hate the thought of people being lonely, depressed and unable to cope but there are things everyone can do to help, people need to check up on people, keep in contact with people who may be struggling, check up on your elderly neighbours.

Things will improve in time, it may take a while but it will get better.

One day at a time and we will get through this.

@grenouilleescargot

Get a grip. You are not living in a country where you have no access to clean water, where you have no access to medical care and not enough food. People are not dying from a famine here, people are not being killed in a civil war. We have wall to wall entertainment, good quality food to eat and houses to live in.

Really?

I take it you did not lose your job as a result of the last lockdown.

Lucky, lucky you.

OP, yes, we are fucked. Or I am, though as I've not got the all-hallowed, sacred, holy Covid, nobody would agree with me.

@Jux

what are you planning on doing then, *@WindChimeTinkle*, as you can't take it anymore?

Have you no insight?

@GirlCrush

Suddenly the lowly paid workers are the ones with secure jobs

Carers,driving and retail are good jobs to be in right now, though traditionally these jobs were looked down on

How times are changing!

I agree with pp. we will bounce back.

I've never been more grateful for my NHS job. Although we hospital workers are facing some scary, testing times, we are extremely fortunate to have secure jobs in the present climate.

I wish they would delay Brexit. I have a rule in my life - one crisis at a time

@notalwaysalondoner

The saddest part is people of my granny’s generation (late 90s) who had to live through the war and now this too. Poor sods.

So true, my grandmother is 94, at the beginning of lockdown she had a fall and then became depressed, she feared she would never leave her house again, that she would die without seeing her family (other than one family member who was caring for her). Last week she went to a supermarket for the first time since March and she is so happy, I spoke to her on the phone today and the trip out has uplifted her mood so much. Luckily we are in a tier 1 and at the moment she can continue to go out, if we end up back in lockdown/tier 3 I’m not sure she would cope.

My main worry is that how on earth are the government going to afford benefits/ payout to keep all these people afloat. There aren't going to be enough people paying taxes at this rate not to mention how much all the testing must be costing and the massive NHS bill.

My main worry is that how on earth are the government going to afford benefits/ payout to keep all these people afloat. There aren't going to be enough people paying taxes at this rate not to mention how much all the testing must be costing and the massive NHS bill

I think the time has come for able bodied people to start working for their benefits if they have been claiming over a set number of years. Essential tasks to help the community. Too many scroungers and we can no longer afford to carry them.

I take it you did not lose your job as a result of the last lockdown.

You'd still have access to running water, housing, food, benefits, free (ie paid by someone else) education, free health care..

it's not a competition to the bottom, but come on, it's not an apocalyptic end of the world either.

It's really not helping anyone to encourage them to believe things are that bad. And pretty insulting to all the NHS staff who hasn't stopped working who are being accused of not taking care of patients anymore

If people were spending less time on being gloomy and more time on finding solutions...

I remember the articles in the press at the very beginning of the lockdown about some air pilots who jumped straight into other jobs to keep themselves afloat. I assure you that others have refused to do the same because they are too good for petty jobs, and are now started to worry about their financial situation...

Post Covid my savings had been decimated because I had to use them to pay for help, after three injuries in one year. I was getting back on my feet, then Covid hit. Restrictions were eased and I started earning again, but due to the most incredible run of disasters, absolutely none of which were of my making for a change and now tighter restrictions have come in again, so the money has run out again. Up until two years ago I lived a very comfortable life because I worked bloody hard setting up a my business. No one is going on hols and most are working from home, so no business for me. It’s hard, but I know things will improve, so I have to hang on. I’m looking at mentoring from other business experts and working out how I can diversify. I have to keep going on, otherwise I’ll lose everything.

I keep in mind, I had a really horrendous childhood, was in a very abusive relationship and stalked for year after ending it. I then met my wonderful husband. We went through some horrendously bad times financially, almost losing our home, then got onto our feet. Then we were burned out of our home, because of our religion (NI)

I ended up having to go NC with the last member of the family that I had a relationship with. I lost my wonderful husband five years ago and went through serious depression. I’m now a 52 widow with an adult child with SN and I’ve been through a lot of shit and Covid is just another of those shitty times.

Through all the crap, I also had some amazing and wonderful times. That’s what life is, going through the crap, so we can enjoy the good times, though I know when you’re young, it’s harder to appreciate it. You need to remember, because nothing lasts forever, not even the bad stuff.

There will be less demand for carers as there will be less elderly people
Erm, you might want to take a look at the general demographics of the UK, now and moving forward a few years....

@PumpkinetChocolat

TheLobster You are the moron

Cancer patients are still being treated here. I can give you the example of someone who not only is in remission as treatment was successful but still get a face-to-face follow-up every month.

So stop talking rubbish to make you feel important

I know of two people who have had cancer treatment delayed and another who was late getting a diagnosis and consequently her life has been shortened. From reading between the lines, and on here, experiences seem to vary depending on where you are, what trust you are under and so on. I think we can all broadly agree however that treatments have been impacted by the focus on covid.

People have been through far worse and survived. Things are tough, but we all need to keep going. Things WILL improve, they always have. For now, it is more than enough to keep yourself and others as safe as possible, do what you safely can to keep life ticking over, and keep yourself calm, happy and entertained. Looking after your wellbeing safely is a public duty at the moment! We all need to pull together and look after each other for now. x

@Babyroobs

My main worry is that how on earth are the government going to afford benefits/ payout to keep all these people afloat. There aren't going to be enough people paying taxes at this rate not to mention how much all the testing must be costing and the massive NHS bill.

People have been asking for a reform of the benefit system for years, decades even. I bet it's coming. Not sure it's necessarily a bad thing.

@WindChimeTinkle I hope you're ok.

I really do think this will all be ok in the end. Please hold on.

Yes it is global but it is possible to get on top of it and have some normality as some countries have proved. Another leader (One who can rebuild public trust in the government), clearer communication, frequent & faster testing, close the borders, a more efficient track and trace facility and we can get there too.

I find myself looking at little smiley nine month old DS and being happy that he knows he is loved and safe right now and feeling horribly guilty for what I've brought him into. What on earth does his future hold? I hope to god he can look back at this time and be unable to fathom it

I feel sick every time I think about it all, the global crisis, Brexit, climate change. So I'm trying not to! Sometimes burying your head in the sand a bit does help for the sake of your mental health

Also if most people who get it are asymptomatic then all of us need to be regularly tested really tbh 🤷‍♀️

@PumpkinetChocolat

With respect, you haven't got a clue about what I'm entitled to or about what my life is like.

I don't receive any benefits. I received one government payout in April, as my business was forced to close during lockdown.

I don't have children at school, so your 'free education' comment is irrelevant to me.

I left my husband because he abused our children, and built up a business which has now gone down the pan.

Weirdly, another lockdown would be better for me than this no-man's land, as I would probably receive another small payout at that point, instead of this dragging on and on with no end in sight.

You may not be fucked, but many others are.