Would you ignore the instruction to isolate if...

[SLAW70s]

...you had Covid yourself two weeks ago and possibly started the local outbreak ?

My dd tested positive about two weeks ago but is only just back at college.

She has now been named as a close contact by someone in her friendship group and is being told to isolate by the college.

Ironically, dd was the first of a few to test positive in her bubble so was their person zero iYSWIM.

In these circumstances, would you Just ignore the instruction to isolate at home, or contact Public Health England for advice? I appreciate that she can’t go back to college until this is cleared up but I wonder what the legal position is with track and trace in these circumstances. (So far it’s only the college that have told her to isolate.)

By local outbreak I mean within the college bubble

Unfortunately yes she does.

EnFlique, but she doesn’t have symptoms. She’s just got better and probably gave Covid to the girl who’s got it currently!

The screenshot posted above can not be any clearer. She has to isolate.

Probably but not definitely

It clearly says you are not immune from it so yes she does have to isolate.

I think she should just do it. Probably OK, but just follow the rules.

@Regulus

The screenshot posted above can not be any clearer. She has to isolate.

It’s not. The screenshot says “if you have symptoms”. She doesn’t have symptoms.

She need to follow the rules.

There’s a possibility of a £1000 fine if she doesn’t.

That screenshot isn’t relevant. That’s talking about isolating as someone with symptoms.

The op’s daughter is a contact.

The screenshot is irrelevant.
I think you should contact PHE.

It's totally ridiculous, but if you were following the guidance then yes, she does have to isolate.

Although that screenshot is only referring to if you have symptoms which your daughter does not have?

To those who are saying she should isolate..surely that also means that within a family bubble if 4 people in a family get in succession the person one needs to keep isolating until person 4 is better as they’re all close contacts of each other even if person one gave it to them in the first place!!

Yes she should. Ultimately individual circumstances aren’t accounted for and there is no reason why she shouldn’t.

We’ve no definitive answer on whether she would be immune or if immunity prevents you being a vector.

Also if your dd believes she may be the original transmission source it’s possible she’s not clear of the virus yet and could still infect others. Has she had a negative test? It takes some people a long time to test negative even when they’re recovered. It’s believed the tests could be picking up dead virus but I don’t think that’s a certainty you could hang your hat on.

I would talk to PHE.

When did she see the friend who is the contact?

she doesn't have symptoms, so the screen shot is irrelevant

Has DD been back to college at all yet?

@SLAW70s

To those who are saying she should isolate..surely that also means that within a family bubble if 4 people in a family get in succession the person one needs to keep isolating until person 4 is better as they’re all close contacts of each other even if person one gave it to them in the first place!!

Recently had this in my family. We ended up isolating for 6 weeks.

@SLAW70s

To those who are saying she should isolate..surely that also means that within a family bubble if 4 people in a family get in succession the person one needs to keep isolating until person 4 is better as they’re all close contacts of each other even if person one gave it to them in the first place!!

A family bubble is a household so a contained number of people with a clear progression of disease. You’re talking about an education bubble with many contacts stemming from it so needs different methods.

@SLAW70s

To those who are saying she should isolate..surely that also means that within a family bubble if 4 people in a family get in succession the person one needs to keep isolating until person 4 is better as they’re all close contacts of each other even if person one gave it to them in the first place!!

Yep- because until you stop passing it around to each other, you could also be passing it on other people if you weren't isolating.

In your family scenario yes they have to isolate. Your college has requested isolating, speak to them tomorrow? Isolate in the meantime.

Lots of different views on this.

Yes, she has been back at college.

It’s about 3 weeks actually since symptoms started.

Applying a bit of logic and common sense, to me, if DD presents any Covid risk, it seems more likely that she could pose a risk from Still be possibly infectious rather than incubating the disease again so soon.

We’ll speak to PHE.

This is from the CDC. Dont know if it differs here:

Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 should stay home for 14 daysafter their last exposureto that person.

However, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and whomeets the following criteria doesNOTneed to stay home.

• Has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 monthsand

* Has recoveredand * Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath)

Yep- because until you stop passing it around to each other, you could also be passing it on other people if you weren't isolating.

Maggie, you say this ^^ but I honestly think most people think they can go out after ten days if they have Covid, even if others in the home develop it. That’s what I believe the rule to be anyway. Can you link to the guidance where it says that a Covid- recoverer has to keep isolating Even when they’re better if a household member tests positive? (Genuine question.)

Presumably this is related to a recent contact though, not back when your daughter was positive.