Teir 2 and mixing....

[november90]

Can different households still meet in public indoor settings for example cafe etc?

Sorry if I'm missing the obvious!

No they can't

I am in Birmingham and I am confused! I don't think we can go pubs and cafes with other households.

Nope. Not inside at all, anywhere unless your household or support bubble.

No only outside and I think only in public places not private gardens.

Oh greeeaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!

Thanks for the replies 😊

@ChristmasCantComeSoonEnough I believe you can meet as a group of six in a private garden in tier two areas.

A lot of people are confused and can't see the impact if they haven't had these restrictions yet. It's really hard ito not seeing family and then do you chance it with your own risk assessment. Hope that the neighbours won't report you.
They are hard decisions to make when it is ongoing and you know it's not just for the short time gov said.

Tier 2 - High:

Mixing of households indoors not allowed
Two households can meet in a private garden - rule of six and social distancing rules apply

How does this apply if you are from a tier 2 area but you travel to a tier 1 area? Which rules apply?

We are tier 2, and meant to be going away for a weekend with friends who are also tier 2, but we’ll be staying in a tier 1 area. Which rules apply?!

I'm so gutted. My mum and dad were flying over from Ireland to stay with us for a few days and spend some time with ten-month old DD, who they've barely seen because of lockdown etc. And now because of tier 2 restrictions we have to cancel.

I know they were taking a risk in booking flights. And I know this was always possible and/or likely to happen. But it's still shit

Maybe just do it

How are people getting covid? Is everyone having big gatherings? Do people even know how they're getting it?

@GreatSoprendo the official legislation says a person FROM a tier 2 area cannot mix with anyone in any area at all. So you can’t travel to another area and mix there instead.

@RedPandaFluff

I'm so gutted. My mum and dad were flying over from Ireland to stay with us for a few days and spend some time with ten-month old DD, who they've barely seen because of lockdown etc. And now because of tier 2 restrictions we have to cancel.

I know they were taking a risk in booking flights. And I know this was always possible and/or likely to happen. But it's still shit

Can't they stay in a hotel and still see you? For childcare? It might get worse they should come sooner rather than later!

Really disappointed for you x

Ahhh thanks @bookish83 - I am wondering if there is still a way. A hotel might be an option, because we can meet them outdoors, apparently. Going to look into it. Although I'm in the unpaid portion of my year's maternity leave so it will need to be a bargain hotel . . .

Are these rules law or guidance like before??

I'm pretty sure they're rules as the word "must" is used a lot in the official government release.

It seems you can stick on your thermals and meet in a beer garden, and can now meet in private gardens. I can see patio heater sales increasing.

Try this, pop your post code in and it explains the restrictions in your area:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-54373904

@Devlesko Where did you see the limit to two households for meetings in a private garden? Have been looking at the draft regulations, but can't see a two household limit.

@RedPandaFluff

Ahhh thanks *@bookish83* - I am wondering if there is still a way. A hotel might be an option, because we can meet them outdoors, apparently. Going to look into it. Although I'm in the unpaid portion of my year's maternity leave so it will need to be a bargain hotel . . .

Do check restrictions, as I understand it it's only regular childcare that is permitted and a one off visit wouldn't be regular. Of course it all depends on how willing you and your parents are to take the risk.

Personally I wouldn't let anyone who had been in a flight have contact with me or my dc before they'd isolated for 14 days regardless, you can take all the precautions you want but one person infected on a flight is enough to infect everyone.
And then, is there anyone malicious enough to try and report the visit?

Slightly confusing that can’t mix households indoors but can still go to the pub or on public transport etc for example - so your household can do either of these things where u will be surrounded by other people even though u aren’t actually meeting up with anyone
The rules have gone mental now

@purpleme12 Restrictions are law. Criminal offence to breach them without a "reasonable excuse".

Oh great

I’m booked into a hotel in a tier two area for a break. Is that allowed?

[quote Clearasmuddypuddles]@GreatSoprendo the official legislation says a person FROM a tier 2 area cannot mix with anyone in any area at all. So you can’t travel to another area and mix there instead.[/quote]
Thanks and yes, I think you are right. Also the BBC postcode checker helpfully shared above says the below, which I think makes clear the restrictions apply to YOU (ie me!) rather than to the area we happen to be visiting... :-(

“You must not meet people you don't live with in any indoor setting - whether at home or in a public place - unless they are part of your support or childcare bubble.“

LilyPond2

I didn't see a limit of two, sorry.
It's just that we would be two families mixing in a garden, up to 6 of us.
We haven't been able to do this, it's such a relief, I've cried.
Tier 2 for us means a light lifting of restrictions.
I get to see my grandchildren.