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Support bubbles?

34 replies

Mermaidwithoutacause · 12/10/2020 07:53

Will they still be allowed in tier 2 and 3?
Otherwise I’m afraid the chances of my sticking to this is zero.

OP posts:
Racoonworld · 12/10/2020 07:55

It looks like they will be allowed in tier 2, but unsure about tier 3.

Spikeyball · 12/10/2020 08:03

Support bubbles count as being in the same household. The only problem could be travel restrictions although I am sure travel for care and support will be allowed anyway.

WingComm · 12/10/2020 14:30

I am really worried. My partner lives in an area likely to be placed in tier 3, whilst mine won't be. We moved in together for the duration of the initial lockdown, and found it very stressful. When lockdown was lifted, we were able to resume our usual pattern of visiting each other, as we are in a support bubble together. I'm very concerned, because none of the current information says whether support bubbles will be allowed in Tier 3, and if they are, will they be permitted to cross regional borders.

HarrietOh · 12/10/2020 14:36

Yeah I wouldn't be following that rule if they madly decided no more support bubbles.

StatisticalSense · 12/10/2020 14:39

I hope they are banned for those with children. Children with separated parents are already largely interacting with both parents households so it makes no sense to allow households that already have a higher than typical level of interaction with others to have even more.

tootyfruitypickle · 12/10/2020 15:10

Nope, a lot of us really are single parents in the truest sense, no other parent involved here. I won't be dropping my support bubble, it's in a different area to mine but will be carrying on regardless of what the rules are, as a bubble we're still smaller than many families anyway.

I don't think they'll ban support bubbles even in tier 3, putting them in place was correcting a mistake in the first place.

bethany39 · 12/10/2020 15:22

@StatisticalSense

I hope they are banned for those with children. Children with separated parents are already largely interacting with both parents households so it makes no sense to allow households that already have a higher than typical level of interaction with others to have even more.
I think they should take into account the impact that 3 months of no childcare help and adult interaction had on single parents' mental health.
nightchat · 12/10/2020 15:25

Statistical sence. Don't assume all single parents even have support from the other parent or that they are even involved at all

Bellyfat · 12/10/2020 15:30

@StatisticalSense

I hope they are banned for those with children. Children with separated parents are already largely interacting with both parents households so it makes no sense to allow households that already have a higher than typical level of interaction with others to have even more.
This isn't true in my case. I also don't see the support bubble being just about the child. Being the only adult is bloody hard work and my support bubble can be my lifeline when things are tough.
Thedogisdrivingmemad · 12/10/2020 16:33

I'm worrying about this - it hasn't been mentioned in coverage I've seen of tier two never mind tier three even.

MillieEpple · 12/10/2020 16:36

but what if the person needing support can only get it from their single parent daughter?

Waxonwaxoff0 · 12/10/2020 16:40

@StatisticalSense fuck off. So because I'm a single parent I shouldn't be allowed any adult company?

PicsInRed · 12/10/2020 16:45

@StatisticalSense

I hope they are banned for those with children. Children with separated parents are already largely interacting with both parents households so it makes no sense to allow households that already have a higher than typical level of interaction with others to have even more.
You want single parents - many of whom are financially stressed and isolated women who spend much of their "free" time child caring - to have no benefit from support bubbles? All because they have some "interaction" with the other parent who may actually also be their abuser? How...breathtakingly unpleasant.
tappitytaptap · 12/10/2020 16:45

@StatisticalSense why do you hate single parents? (I’m not one by the way but fully support them having another household they can interact with). Also for those with children - how do you suggest that childcare works when it is done by a family member?

BabyLlamaZen · 12/10/2020 18:37

Yes because it means they are part of your household.

giggly · 12/10/2020 18:41

@StatisticalSense god your annoying. You keep posting on threads with a theme of single parenting Hmm are you a bitter exdh?

psychomath · 12/10/2020 19:11

Bloody hell - I really, really struggled for the two months or so where we weren't allowed to see non-household members at all, but if it came down to it I'd support single parents getting to have a bubble over those of us without children. It was bad enough being completely alone for two months, never mind completely alone apart from several young kids!

NRatched · 12/10/2020 19:36

If they are banned on any level, I am afraid we will be 'breaking the rules' if that level applies to us at any stage. I am currently unsure if we are breaking rules by allowing MIL to continue visiting twice weekly (only visitor. and we are the only ones she visits too) however, even if it is a rulebreak we will keep doing it due to the severe issues with her mental health which came to light during the original lockdown. If this is 'selfish' or whatever, fine.

Gobacktothe90s · 12/10/2020 19:44

The jealousy towards single parents being allowed a bubble with another adult is unreal

Carlislemumof4 · 12/10/2020 19:44

Confirmed on the gov.uk website that support bubbles will be allowed in tiers 2 and 3.

The wording for tier 3 is you must not socialise with anybody you do not live with, or have formed a support bubble with, in any indoor setting or in any private garden or at most outdoor hospitality venues and ticketed events.

So your household includes those who you've formed a support bubble with even under the tightest restrictions.

www.gov.uk/guidance/local-covid-alert-levels-what-you-need-to-know

Hellononame · 12/10/2020 19:47

Doesn’t mention childcare bubbles only
support bubbles

NRatched · 12/10/2020 19:50

[quote Carlislemumof4]Confirmed on the gov.uk website that support bubbles will be allowed in tiers 2 and 3.

The wording for tier 3 is you must not socialise with anybody you do not live with, or have formed a support bubble with, in any indoor setting or in any private garden or at most outdoor hospitality venues and ticketed events.

So your household includes those who you've formed a support bubble with even under the tightest restrictions.

www.gov.uk/guidance/local-covid-alert-levels-what-you-need-to-know[/quote]
Fantastic. As it should be. and yes, that would also apply (IMO) to single parents, even if the children are moving between houses of parents (not sure why that would make a difference to the single adults MH? Hmm )

Will print this I think, as MIL neighbours apparently keep (and this is fucking ridiculous but seemingly happening) ringing her when she comes back from ours to berate her for breaking the rules. And threatening to report her also, which sends her into a panic.

knittingaddict · 12/10/2020 19:53

[quote Waxonwaxoff0]@StatisticalSense fuck off. So because I'm a single parent I shouldn't be allowed any adult company?[/quote]
Couldn't agree more.

My daughter is a single parent to two primary aged children. She left an abusive husband who is still being an absolute arse. We are her childcare and she would crash mentally without our support, so get lost with your judgemental post.

DominaShantotto · 12/10/2020 19:54

Good to see yet more people showing their true colours as this goes on.

knittingaddict · 12/10/2020 19:56

That last post was to StatisticalSense.