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COVID CLUSTER IN NURSERY

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WeeSunhine2018 · 08/10/2020 21:56

Hi all

Just looking for your thoughts on this??

I have a 2 year old son that attends nursery.

He attends a Monday Tuesday morning.

On Tuesday 6th Oct I recieve a call at 8pm stating someone at nursery tested positive at nursery and results came back that day. Said my was in direct contact with them and for him to isolate for 14 days not rest of my family. (that's fair enough as that's gov guidance as silly as that seems but anywho.)

Long story short - I discovered the nursery new about this confirmed covid cade on Monday 11am and continued to have my son in that room without closing it down for deep clean and even worse let him attend on the Tuesday and didn't notify me until Tuesday 8pm. Come on surely there's a duty of care to make us aware so I can make the safest decision for my son.

I am raging about this esocially when u have a primary 2 child and a new born baby that has now developed a cough.

The nursery are not taking me seriously and fobbing me off. Any suggestions x

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MotherPiglet · 09/10/2020 07:49

They got the results Tuesday and told you Tuesday evening.. what's the issue?

Their not going to SD in a nursery, how ridiculous. Have you ever tried to keep two 2 year olds social distancing never mind a full class of them? How would staff change nappies or take to the toilet? YABU.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 09/10/2020 07:50

Sounds like they’ve followed the guidance in all respects. If you’re not happy with that you might struggle because other nurseries will be following the same guidance.

MRex · 09/10/2020 07:50

You're angry because you're worried about your children. It's understandable to be worried. Unfortunately some people get infected; in absence of specific information about an individual taking extraordinary risks, it is extremely unfair to blame an individual or their employer for them becoming unwell. If covid wasn't so contagious there wouldn't be a pandemic to start with!

As above, if the member of staff had a positive test on Monday then they may have taken that test at the weekend, so your son wouldn't have been in nursery within the infectious window and not required to isolate. Once an additional staff member case and several child cases arose, your son became a contact. There's not enough information about the original case's symptoms date and contacts with other staff members or children, so it's impossible to know if any of those people should have isolated earlier. As far as your son is concerned however, they've done the right things. Nursery workers absolutely should not wear masks when caring for young children, that could be emotionally damaging and would certainly affect developing speech; you will have known that was not the practice and should have withdrawn your son if you disagree.

ineedaholidaynow · 09/10/2020 07:54

Was the person in the nursery on the Monday when they took the test?

Janevaljane · 09/10/2020 07:56

What did you think was going to happen? Nurseries aren't magical protective bubbles that Covid cannot enter. I expect the nursery have been dreading this and it sounds like they've done everything correctly. The last thing they need is indignant parents taking their worries out on them. If you were this worried then don't use nurseries.

Spacemonkey2016 · 09/10/2020 08:09

Agree with everything that's been said before. Understand you're worried about your baby, but obviously you accepted the risk when sending other DC to nursery. As for the social distancing in nurseries, would you really want your son to get no comfort when he's upset/help when he needs it?

If you're on maternity leave and worried, why not keep your son at home? I had a newborn in March, and pulled my son out of nursery a couple of weeks before they shut because I was worried too.

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WeeSunhine2018 · 09/10/2020 08:23

I don't think people have picked up my point.

I understand staff have to comfort children and wearing mask etc might scare etc that's not the issue and I don't know why folk keep banging on about it

My issue is nicola sturgeon said in premises Adults must wearask where it is not possible to social distance. They haven't been following this and the manager agreed with me and said she would get team meeting to remind them of rules

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WeeSunhine2018 · 09/10/2020 08:25

Unflrtunately I am not still on maternity leave I am at work as I have no other choice I am a key worker

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WeeSunhine2018 · 09/10/2020 08:28

The nursery advised me on the Tuesday 6th October that staff member had symptoms however kept them on premises until they got zoom call from health board.

Who does that???

If I had symptoms at work I'd be seen home immediately

Not stand around playing with kids that's so irresponsible

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WeeSunhine2018 · 09/10/2020 08:32

Mother piglet - they didn't get results Tuesday and told me Tuesday evening

As above I previously stated they got results Monday 11am and told me Tuesday 8pm

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Char2015 · 09/10/2020 08:45

OP, you seem to be changing your story at every post. I can't keep up.

MRex · 09/10/2020 08:50

On premises is not identical to playing with children and can be in a different room. Your anger is making it challenging to put across information logically. Are they perhaps in a separate room onsite for an hour or two waiting for a household member to collect them because of being unwell (covid comes on extremely fast)? Was there a staff shortage meaning they had to choose between going below the legal minimum number of childcare workers and having the worker go home?

Key workers get maternity leave, what an odd comment, it's just the list of roles that must continue even if they have to work outside the house, and who were entitled to use educational settings during lockdown. @Spacemonkey2016's comment is relevant in that you have a baby, someone is looking after that baby even if that's not you, they could also look after the toddler.

MRex · 09/10/2020 08:52

Also in an outbreak situation, they may have kept the staff member in a separate room to be available to quickly answer questions about who they have been near. That's 3 reasons I've thought of why the staff member might have been on site.

TheKeatingFive · 09/10/2020 08:53

My issue is nicola sturgeon said in premises Adults must wearask where it is not possible to social distance.

And we all know that we need to use a bit of common sense here.

I don’t know of a single nursery where they’re wearing masks. I don’t see how it’s appropriate for care givers of very small children to do so.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 09/10/2020 08:56

It would be so inappropriate for nursery workers to wear masks! I would have pulled my daughter out straight away if they were wearing masks and practicing social distancing with toddlers and preschoolers. That is not and never has been a requirement in early years settings and you’ve been misled if you thought it was.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 09/10/2020 08:58

Which key workers don’t get enough maternity leave to care for their “newborn” (I assume less than 3 months to qualify as newborn?) baby?

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WeeSunhine2018 · 09/10/2020 09:00

I don't know why you can't understand this.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE NOT WEARING MASKS AROUND KIDS.

My point Is THE STAFF are acting like there's no covid and are chatting away right close to parents and staff without even attempting to keep the 2m from each other. Now how come I have to keep 2m everywhere eise I go but somehow its a free for all in the nursery they aren't magically exempt to the rules

That's not right and even manager at nursery agreed with me.

Why don't yous get it into your skulls??

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JeanClaudeVanDammit · 09/10/2020 09:03

We can’t understand it because one minute you’ve got a newborn baby and the next you’re not on maternity leave because you’re a key worker Hmm

Char2015 · 09/10/2020 09:05

And one moment you are saying they got confirmed results on Tuesday then next moment you are saying Monday.

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WeeSunhine2018 · 09/10/2020 09:08

Yeah you can have a newborn and go back to work you know. Not a crime

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WeeSunhine2018 · 09/10/2020 09:09

I'm gunna leave it there I'm dealing with a bunch of halfwits this morning

Good bye

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TheKeatingFive · 09/10/2020 09:10

Why don't yous get it into your skulls??

Wow, aren’t you just the type of charming person that everyone loves to deal with. I’m sure you’re parent of the year in that nursery.

I’m sure it’s difficult to SD with staff in a nursery setting and impractical to keep putting on a mask and taking it off again. Cut them some slack.

pilotsprincess · 09/10/2020 09:17

So they had a positive test on Mon at 11 am and they told you on Tues they had symptoms?

MRex · 09/10/2020 09:23

I'm gunna leave it there I'm dealing with a bunch of halfwits this morning

If nobody can understand what you're saying, then you have expressed yourself ineffectively. Now, your baby has a cough, so your household need to isolate and get a test. I hope everyone is better soon.

RationalOne · 09/10/2020 09:32

So staff member has it Monday and gets tested then tells everyone Tuesday and shut down and informs all close contacts to isolate. Isn't that how it's done?

I'm really sorry that you are very upset. Isolate and when son recovers back to nursery again.

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