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Self isolating after a holiday

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 03/10/2020 15:05

Hi,

I'm interested to hear from people who have had to self isolated after coming back from a country where you have to self isolate for 14 days. How many of you were contacted to check you were at home?

The reason I'm asking is that I'm going to Italy tomorrow which is currently on the 'safe' list but I'm preparing for the scenario that that might change while we're there. I'm happy to isolate if I have to, but I would have to drive my daughter to school. She isn't coming with us, so she wouldn't have to isolate. Am thinking that if I drive her there and don't get out of the car or see anyone else, there's no risk?

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 03/10/2020 15:21

God I've just read that back and the first para is gobbledegook - sorry! I'm sure you know what I mean.

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MRex · 03/10/2020 15:32

No, that's not OK. You would be supposed to try to distance from your daughter too, going in a car is the opposite of that. It would also mean leaving the house, which would be illegal and leave you with a fine if caught (doubling per offence).
Italy's figures are still ok just now, keep an eye on them every day and fly back early if the situation is worsening. I don't know if there will be a change to the rates applied now UK has more cases, I suspect not because UK cases are very concentrated in a few areas so avoiding imported spread elsewhere is still important.
Look at this site, if that 41 gets nearer to 60 then fly back: www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea.

Mindymomo · 03/10/2020 15:46

I think you are expected to isolate on your own and isolate means not going out at all for 14 days, only in garden. People cannot even walk their dogs, so definitely not supposed to go out in car.

cologne4711 · 03/10/2020 16:09

There are exceptions if you read the legislation, but taking your child to school isn't one of them.

showmethegin · 03/10/2020 16:12

Today is our last day of isolation after a Greek holiday and we haven't been past our front gate. It sucks but those are the rules I'm afraid!

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 03/10/2020 16:14

Has anyone contacted you to check @showmethegin?

Hope you had a nice holiday.

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RaspberryHartleys · 03/10/2020 16:16

Its not about whether people call to check on you OP, its about not taking a risk to potentially pass on a nasty virus to your DD or anyone else. Hmm

And people wonder why cases are increasing ...

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 03/10/2020 16:19

I'm not a rule breaker. But there are people who can't even be arsed wearing a mask for 5 minutes in Tesco so I'm all about doing what's sensible.

Frankly I've had it with nonsensical rules. I had a holiday to Turkey cancelled at two days notice due to some random doubt over their figures, with no evidence to back it up. So forgive me for being fed up of it all.

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lunar1 · 03/10/2020 16:24

You have to isolate with people you were away with. So if they change the rules and your dd isn't going on the holiday you have to isolate separate to her.

The point isn't if you would get caught and it isn't a race to the bottom just because you know other people not following the rules.

EmmaStone · 03/10/2020 16:39

We were quarantined after a holiday in France. We weren't contacted at all. And I'm afraid we bent the rules to maintain our mental health. So that meant going for walks locally (where we never saw another person as we live rurally), running and cycling. Not going to pubs, not having gaggles over for drinks and dinner. Just isolated exercise. I don't see how that puts others at risk.

As for driving your DD to school, I'm not really sure how you would get around this - she has to get to school. While you're not exhibiting symptoms, and not getting out of the car etc, you're minimising risk. Not eliminating it entirely, but minimising. That's all that masks, social distancing, washing hands etc does.

Hopefully it won't be a concern and Italy stays off the list. I hope you have a wonderful break!

MRex · 03/10/2020 16:42

@EmmaStone - there is a difference that what you did broke guidance. It is now against the law.

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 03/10/2020 16:45

Thanks @EmmaStone. It does seem ridiculous that even going for walks where you see no one is not allowed. We could do that even in full lockdown.

Also my local area has far higher infection rates than Italy do, so it makes little sense. But yes, let's hope they stay on the 'safe' list for at least another week.

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MrsBlobby43 · 03/10/2020 16:48

My friend had the police check on her randomly about 11 days after she got back. Also a child in my school was sent home to isolate as the parent had been on holiday and had been dropping him off!

Ellmau · 03/10/2020 17:44

I wasn't contacted.

RaspberryHartleys · 03/10/2020 17:45

Let's hope you don't infect your kid then ay? Its a very nasty virus, if the area does become on the isolation list, its to protect people.

fluffiphlox · 03/10/2020 17:49

I was away for a month and am now in the middle of quarantine. It’s the right thing to do. Not been contacted so far but that’s not the point is it?

BDOne · 03/10/2020 18:10

I wasn’t contacted at all. One of my colleagues was telephoned about three times.

FatGirlShrinking · 03/10/2020 18:17

If during the 14 days quarantine you were found to be positive would you be ok with contacting the school and letting all the families know that you were positive, that you had been driving your child to school and that you may have infected their children via yours, who may have infected their families.

If it's about personal responsibility would you take personal responsibility? Would you apologise for the hundreds of children in your daughters year having to lose 2 weeks of school? Would you apologise to the hundreds of families losing income if they can't work?

NerrSnerr · 03/10/2020 18:39

Frankly I've had it with nonsensical rules.

It's not a nonsensical rule though. It's to try to keep people in your community safe. Too many people are bending the rules just so they can get on with life as normal with no regard to the bigger picture.

CompleteBarstool · 03/10/2020 18:47

The idea of self-isolating post-holiday is not mixing with, or being around, other people other than those you were on holiday with.

Your DD won't be on holiday with you so therefore you shouldn't be with her for 2 weeks after your holiday.

If she is in the same household as you in that 2 weeks after your holiday then she shouldn't leave the home either but you risk infecting her.

Seriously, is this holiday worth it?

NotAKaren · 03/10/2020 18:50

@chocolatesaltyballs22

I'm not a rule breaker. But there are people who can't even be arsed wearing a mask for 5 minutes in Tesco so I'm all about doing what's sensible.

Frankly I've had it with nonsensical rules. I had a holiday to Turkey cancelled at two days notice due to some random doubt over their figures, with no evidence to back it up. So forgive me for being fed up of it all.

OP we are all fed up and we are all putting up with restrictions on our daily lives some more than others. However one of the reasons we have increased cases and more restrictions is because people have ignored the rules around quarantine, especially when returning from abroad. Lots of people thinking as you are and it's ok for me if I'm only going for a walk/ dropping kids to school etc and justifying their actions because someone else isn't wearing a mask in Tescos. Would you be happy if you contracted Covid from someone else who was supposed to be quarantined? It is your choice to go to Italy, if you make that choice you have to deal with the consequences should they arise.
Aroundtheworldin80moves · 03/10/2020 19:06

PILs got back from Turkey today. Unfortunately for them, after the 4am deadline. Frustrating but they were aware of the possibility. Fortunately have local family who could drop stuff off if required (we're two hours away, BIL im Asia).

If you go on holiday, you've got to accept the riskof the two week isolation.

Powerplant · 03/10/2020 19:12

We finished our isolation 2 weeks ago and during that time my partner was contacted twice to remind him about isolation.

binkyblinky · 03/10/2020 19:15

I lost a relative to Covid two days ago and I've had it with selfish people thinking their holidays are more important than the lives of others quite frankly!

Bedsheets4knickers · 03/10/2020 19:21

Anyone else think the OP might actually be Donald Trump ???

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