#CancelTheCurfew trending on twitter

[JKRowlingIsMyQueen]

The 10pm hospitality curfew that is. Forgive me, I don't know how to post tweets.

There is serious misuse of the term "curfew" in this situation.

It's pointless you just cause crowding and transportation problems when everything kicks out at same time, but I saw it coming no idea why no one in charge did.

It's all part of plan, curfew isn't working so let's shut them.

The curfew makes no sense. None at all. It just causes more crowds.

The curfew was never going to work. Hopefully they'll be an acknowledgement that hospitality is substantially more essential than many other things that are open and measures will be brought in to close things like Slimming World and Baby Groups so that hospitality can remain open.

Having lived under an actual curfew enforced by the army in another country it's a bit teenage melodramatic to call this a curfew.
However, it is not working properly and is losing already dwindling public support there was.

Rather than curfew how about just making sure premises are adhering to regulations. Lots of premises are and have always been following the rules but many were not and now all have to suffer which seems unfair. It's not just bars either, plenty of restaurants were packing as many as possible in during eat out to help out and no one was monitored.

Every person I spoke to about the curfew before it came in said this would happen. Bizarre that anyone in power thought that it wouldn't.

Hurrah!!!!!! It makes no sense at all!

From what I’ve read pubs & restaurants account for around 3% of infections yet they are the easy sector to lay the blame on ( how many threads on here about closing pubs?)
Anyone with half a brain knew that once a pub called last orders at 9.30 half the punters would carry on drinking together in private homes, it’s not a surprise.
The same goes for what happened when you close everything at the same time - why are they shocked streets & transport are now busy at 10?

It's just embarrassing living in a country that can't just suck up some common sense rules for a few months.

My friend runs a village pub. There isn't the issue around local transport crowding but she is very angry that she is forced to close at a certain time, wear a face mask for the whole shift and employ more staff to provide table service when the bars in the house of commons are exempt! "Work place canteens" apparently.

I understand her frustration.

It's just embarrassing living in a country that can't just suck up some common sense rules for a few months

Pubs aren't really responsible for most infections.

@StatisticalSense

The curfew was never going to work. Hopefully they'll be an acknowledgement that hospitality is substantially more essential than many other things that are open and measures will be brought in to close things like Slimming World
Slimming world meetings can and do now easily operate in venues where everyone is socially-distanced.
You can see from people tumbling out of pubs onto the streets that they don't bother. I don't know whether that is due to alcohol consumption or pure rebelliousness.

I'm not advocating shutting pubs but I don't think they could be classed as essential.

I agree with the point how did no one in government policy think "actually there's a chance everyone will just go and drink in houses instead". The very place where we a being told the spread is happening!!

I agree @Streamingbannersofdawn that the HOC bar(s) should not be exempt. I don't actually believe alcohol should be served in HOC at all, just as I wouldn't expect a bank manager to consume alcohol in their lunch break.

Think about it from the bar owner's point of view. You've spent months with little or no income. You've spent a load getting your premises "covid secure" even though it's reduced your capacityand potential income, and increased your costs. You've done everything that's been asked of you and tried to act responsibly...... and now you're told you've got to restrict your opening hours, which is presumably the prelude to closing you entirely. Just because you're an easy target.

@nancy75

From what I’ve read pubs & restaurants account for around 3% of infections yet they are the easy sector to lay the blame on ( how many threads on here about closing pubs?) Anyone with half a brain knew that once a pub called last orders at 9.30 half the punters would carry on drinking together in private homes, it’s not a surprise. The same goes for what happened when you close everything at the same time - why are they shocked streets & transport are now busy at 10?

How does anyone actually know for certain where the virus spreads? It is certainly far more likely that people will take more risks the get more they drink in bars late into the evening. Summer has been ok with lots drinking outside but with everything moving inside in winter this is likely to be a big deal. It also becomes harder for staff to manage and for police to enforce when lots of pissed people are falling around causing trouble on the streets. It puts additional pressure on emergency services and A&E. If people want to go home and party after 10pm that's their choice to take the risks.

If people want to go home and party after 10pm that's their choice to take the risks.
It isn't alright for them to take risks and then have the virus asymptomatically and pass it in to someone else who dies.

They would be doing the same thing if they stayed in the pub past 10pm potentially to a lot more people.

How does anyone actually know for certain where the virus spreads? It is certainly far more likely that people will take more risks the get more they drink in bars late into the evening. Summer has been ok with lots drinking outside but with everything moving inside in winter this is likely to be a big deal. It also becomes harder for staff to manage and for police to enforce when lots of pissed people are falling around causing trouble on the streets.

There is little spread in pubs but I appreciate your complete utter rubbish assesment of how it spreads because you feel like it.

@heresme no one can prove where cv is passed on. There isn't a special force field in pubs or schools. Even if people are sitting nicely at a table they're still sharing a toilet.

@megletthesecond

But evidence shows it isn't really being spread in pubs but you will choose to ignore that.

Apparanty we are hugging in pubs, don't think the OP has been in a lot of northern pubs.

This is from the daily Mail but most papers published this www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8780631/amp/Pubs-bars-restaurants-blame-3-coronavirus-outbreaks-week.html
Pubs 3%, school 41%. Closing pubs an hour earlier is like putting on a small plaster when someone’s been run over by a train

@nancy75

This is from the daily Mail but most papers published this www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8780631/amp/Pubs-bars-restaurants-blame-3-coronavirus-outbreaks-week.html Pubs 3%, school 41%. Closing pubs an hour earlier is like putting on a small plaster when someone’s been run over by a train

But people want schools to remain open, with very little if no effective mitigation. If you can’t stop the spread of 41% of cases, you need to stop as much as possible in the other 59%. And that means in the 3% too. Unfortunately they then ran into the problem of not wanting to shut the pubs down so came up with the pointless ‘compromise’ of closing at 10pm.