How are people catching it?

[Quarterback11]

Just a very unscientific anecdotal poll...if covid is not totally crazy in your area, how are people who test positive getting it? (If they know).

I'll start:

In a nursing home and bedbound, so presumably through staff.
Hospital acquired
The nanny tested positive and then one of the children she minded did.
No idea but the only place she was was grocery shopping (others in the household mix with the public though. And reports of individuals not isolating in that town )

@Bluelinings

That's Week 27 which was in June - so not relevant now.

[quote MJMG2015]@Bluelinings

That's Week 27 which was in June - so not relevant now.[/quote]
No it isn’t it is week 27 to 38. The last one is week 38.

(Week 38 is last week)

Remmy, I think it's pretty well established that it is very contagious, have the pandemic status. Your single anecdote doesn't cancel that out. But some people are possibly less likely to catch it - there are theories about blood type etc that still need to be figured out. And also, some people have no symptoms, so may catch it and never know.

The only people I know who have had it caught it in hospital. Either NHS staff or a patient. None of their households or contacts caught it from them. In the case of the patients, maybe they were no longer infectious by the time of discharge. In the case of HCP maybe they were more aware of infection control. But from my (limited) experience there’s been 0% household transmission.

Of the three people I know who’ve had it,

1 caught it from helping with refreshments at a church function (in small kitchen with someone who also got it)
1 thinks she caught it from shopping at M&S because it was the inky place she’d been
1 asymptomatic and had no idea - picked up on standard check before routine scheduled operation

I'm in a high risk zone and extra lockdown. Already a case at DD's school.
But it's obviously all fake news designed to control our minds. Ffs.

2 people went on holiday to Italy right at the start of it all, before the risks were known.
1 working in a care home then passed to other household members
1 probably on public transport
1 working offshore

My ex caught it in late March and has no idea how he could have caught it. He works outdoors all day on his own and had all shopping delivered from Ocado anyway before all this. He'd not been in anyone else's house, any shops or anything like that for weeks as he'd been yelling about Covid coming since January! The only two options realistically are:

1. One of his customers' dogs gave it to him. He'd walked a couple of dogs for people but asked them to send them out of the door to him so he didn't have to go into anyone's house. Seems unlikely it was this option.

2. One (or more) of the children was asymptomatic and passed it on to him.

He's still struggling with long term side effects six months on. Scary how he got to despite being extremely careful and we all laughed at him in January when he was ordering masks, air purifiers, and avoiding all human contact wherever possible!

I caught it at school. Passed it on to dh and dd.

5 people I know caught it - one from the pub, then as she seemed to be a superspreader - the other 4 caught it from her - one at home, 3 at work.

The other people I know who got it apart from my ex-

• children got it in school and brought it home before schools shut X3
• attending a house party in April, 4 people out of 16 got it, one died (my neighbours hosted the party, still carried on having people round often despite effectively killing their uncle, had at least ten people round on Saturday! )
• got it at work in a pharmacy.

@Derbee

The only people I know that have had it all got it at work

if I ever get it I am convinced it'll be at work. We wear masks and social distance but there is about 30 of us, in one department. Not a job that can be done at home. A cold has recently made its way around everyone, so just shows how Covid will inevitably spread if it gets in.

I've only known 2 people with it. One of them, my SIL, caught it at work from her colleague.

I know 3 people personally who have had it and all work in hospitals. They all took it home and passed it no to their families although family members had milder versions and all have recovered. Only 2 of them, both doctors, have now got antibodies and the rest haven’t...

I know several other people who work in hospitals and gp surgeries and none of them have had it even though they have worked there throughout.

The other person I know of who had it, and sadly died, caught it whilst in Tenerife at the beginning of March.

Mostly pubs in my area.

There have also been some school cases, but those cases all caught it from parents / grandparents who had been in pubs.

In schools, every single case is publicised and all contacts isolated immediately, so there is very little spread within the schools.

In pubs, there is very little track & trace happening. There’s been a few cases in my area where they are eventually linked back to a group that have visited 4 or 5 pubs in one day, traipsing the virus along with them as they go.

The problem is that these cases are not getting identified until about 3 weeks after the event, when several people have symptoms and then once it’s tracked back, the cluster of initial contact is found.

Obviously, all too late then, as 3 weeks of 10 people passing it to all their contacts and then onto their contacts’ contacts etc... is the definition of exponential spread.

That’s not happening in schools where everything is being identified, tested and isolated much more quickly.

@Bluelinings
'outbreaks' means a cluster of confirmed cases not just individual cases. Elsewhere in that document (page 24) according to NHS Test and Trace it is quite clear that the vast majority of individual cases are picked up either someone else in the household or a household visitor.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/921561/Weekly_COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_39_FINAL.pdf

@shoofle

The focus is on home transmission because it doesn't affect the economy to ban it. Schools are probably a hotbed of transmission, but the government can't admit that without people going apeshit.

Another one agreeing with this.

At the moment the figures will say overwhelmingly student accommodation.
I don't know anyone thankfully who has had it.

2x children caught it at school in March
2x adults work in hospital setting caught it and then passed on their child

@Frazzled2207

Elsewhere it may say that about different data. This is about outbreaks though.

I’ve attached a page that breaks down the educational settings and makes it clear that it is about outbreaks defined in the way you state.

There’s hundreds more schools with the type of transmission you mention.

I think partly that a lot of people are kidding themselves that they are sticking to the guidelines and blaming easy targets such as pubs...for example, I’ve seen loads on social media having garden parties yet with no social distancing whatsoever...but then say they must caught it from the pub they went to because that’s the only occasion where the left the house, you know the pub where they were sat socially distant from all other punters 🤔 also cracks me up that people say things like ‘well I can trust my family and I know where they have been/wouldn’t bring it to me but can’t trust strangers out and about’...if that’s true then you are lucky...I’ve a few friends and family members who are slowly but surely becoming aware of people they have been close to breaking the rules much to their shock. For those where transmission is happening in schools...how do you think it got there in the first place? If people had been sticking to the guidelines prior to schools opening then we’d be in a better place.

It is all a chain of events. People spread it home then it spreads in schools, work etc, then those people who spread it in homes and so on.

People I know who’ve had it caught it at work in hospital and supermarket (only place they’d been) in spring. Recently one caught it at school and one at work. Again been nowhere else. And one who isn’t sure.

What are all the workplaces where it is spreading? Production lines, offices, retail?

Schools are coming up a bit.

It was announced that most of the cases in my city right now are coming from areas mainly populated by one particular group who have taken absolute fuck all notice of any rules or lockdown regulations and continued to have weddings and celebrations with hundreds of guests. Despite having many Covid-related deaths, they have carried on doing what they please and again, they are suffering and it’s spreading into the greater community again