'stick to the rules and we'll get back to normal sooner'

[MorrisZapp]

This had been said since March and there's a new wave of it now. If we stick to the guidelines, then we can get back to normal sooner.

What is this based on? I don't see how 'normal' can be achieved by anything other than a vaccine, better treatments and a degree of acceptance of this new virus in our world.

If you think that sticking to rules now will bring normality sooner, why do you think this?

@FeedtheFish123

It's not going away ever. I doubt we will ever get back to normal if by normal you mean no masks, no distancing, shaking hands,hugging etc Masks will be here forever now. Large crowds at events are gone for good. Small distanced mask wearing crowds as cinemas are now will eventually come in for theatre/sport/concerts/festivals. Nightclubs and parties, random hook ups are a thing of the past.

This is life now, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves, following the rules won't get it over quicker. This is life. We will come to look back on pre 2020 the way we look at the middle ages disgusted at the poor hygiene practices.

The government have already told us so with the alert level system. Level 1 equals no measures it requires no covid in UK.

That will never happen now, it won't cause the deaths so often once we can vaccinate but it will still be here so the alert system will never get to 1.

We will always have measures now, this is normality the quicker people accept the happier they will be.

Don't be stupid.

@EhUp

Do people honestly think that every person to person transmission occurs because someone 'broke a rule' and that if there was 100% compliance the virus would magically dissappear in 2 weeks?

sadly, some do believe that

@FeedtheFish123

It's not going away ever. I doubt we will ever get back to normal if by normal you mean no masks, no distancing, shaking hands,hugging etc Masks will be here forever now. Large crowds at events are gone for good. Small distanced mask wearing crowds as cinemas are now will eventually come in for theatre/sport/concerts/festivals. Nightclubs and parties, random hook ups are a thing of the past.

This is life now, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves, following the rules won't get it over quicker. This is life. We will come to look back on pre 2020 the way we look at the middle ages disgusted at the poor hygiene practices.

The government have already told us so with the alert level system. Level 1 equals no measures it requires no covid in UK.

That will never happen now, it won't cause the deaths so often once we can vaccinate but it will still be here so the alert system will never get to 1.

We will always have measures now, this is normality the quicker people accept the happier they will be.

Urgh. If they start hanging people in the streets too would you just suggest we accept that because we'll be happier?

@SandysMam

I think they just mean keep it at bay for as long as possible to buy time to get better treatments and or a vaccine.

Yes. That's exactly what people mean. Those of us who are actually bothering to stick to the rules are doing it because we want schools to stay open, we don't want hospitals to grind to a halt because they're overrun with Covid patients, we want to protect out vulnerable family members from catching an illness that could kill them etc etc. The rules are designed to keep the virus at bay.

Yes, it's bollocks. Technically the quickest way of getting it over with is letting it rip through everyone to gain herd immunity but for obvious reasons that's not an option!

@Splodgetastic

I feel irked by having to buy a new phone to go to the places I want to go to just to put money in the pockets of Serco. My phone was perfectly okay but can't cope with the app and I know loads of people who have non-Android and non-Apple phones. Using the app isn't mandatory in law to access anything (yet) but a few places near me won't let you in without it. Not even a substitute of paper.

Places that won’t let you in without the app don’t get my business.

@EhUp

Do people honestly think that every person to person transmission occurs because someone 'broke a rule' and that if there was 100% compliance the virus would magically dissappear in 2 weeks?

You can't stop the virus transmitting unless you shut everything down completely (starting with the borders).

However, if everybody wore a mask indoors and social distanced - and no big gatherings - then rates would slow down a lot. The second wave came in no time when the schools and colleges opened because people are indoors with no social distancing.

The trouble is the rules are not necessarily logical.

I can abide by the rules by meeting 5 separate friends inside a pub.
But if my family of 4 meets another family of 4 for a walk it is illegal.
The legal action is considerably higher risk of virus transmission than the illegal action.
From a viral spread point of view, it's lower risk to break the law than to have the legal meet up

We had 90% complience in the spring. It didn't exactly get us out of this hole did it?
It's a virus being a virus and the cost of all these measures to control it may well be worse in the long run than the consequences of the virus itself (NHS delayed/ missed care, suicide, poor mental health, impact on the economy, loss of education...)

Cases were rising in the north prior to schools opening because poorer summer weather encouraged more indoor social mixing.

Most of the south has fared better because it was easier to remain outdoors with more favourable weather. The south coast and south-west maintained low infection rates despite the influx of domestic tourists from the rest of the country with higher rates.

Outdoors is the greatest defence and makes numbers far less relevant.

Where I live, compliance has pushed transmission and deaths down to 0 for some weeks. Our lives are practically normal apart from no international travel, little live music ... I can't think of much else. So I do think, with a little effort, it can be done. It certainly isn't bollocks.

Masks will be here forever now. Large crowds at events are gone for good. Small distanced mask wearing crowds as cinemas are now will eventually come in for theatre/sport/concerts/festivals. Nightclubs and parties, random hook ups are a thing of the past

Really?
Aussie rules footy is going to be a 30,000 strong crowd at the grand final, my own state is up to 20.000 for footy
The Christmas pageant will be on, modified but still 25,000 expected
Masks not mandatory anywhere in SA and many parts of aus

No reason the UK can't get there
Random hook ups still happening and always have been with people