Isn't it good that lots of younger people are catching CV?

[Marcellemouse]

They seem mainly asymptomatic or have mild symptoms but won't this supposed mass spread at universities and schools help to spread up creating herd immunity? I appreciate some will take this back to vulnerable parents, but there seems to be no issues amongst the young who are catching it. Will they theoretically just get it out the way by allowing schools and universities to stay open so they can get on with their lives?

What? Right before lockdown we had a few hundred cases, not deaths.

Covid, even mild and asymptomatic cases, cause things like blood clotting and damage to the heart and lungs, someone who caught covid at 12 could face having a stroke from a blood clot travelling to the brain at 16, or a heart attack in their 20s, perfectly healthy adults are becoming chronic illness suffers due to having caught this virus, catching covid could cut 10-20 years off of people's lives, we just don't know what the long term effects are so I don't understand why people are so happy to let themselves and their family catch it.

@MrsxRocky

40 deaths were recorded simply for 1 day, yesterday, not the week. Much more than this for the week, and rising exponentially ( along with hospitalisations).

Underlying health conditions can include something like diabetes ,which can be managed and managed well people can expect to live a long time , my Dh has diabetes he's 45 I don't expect to lose him anytime soon ,but apparently he's dispensable due to his underlying health conditions

@Shamrocksunshine

I think it’s a good thing for them. Coronaviruses are going to come back around and any potential immunity might help them in older age. I know immunity might not be long lasting but your immune system does recognise certain invaders and repeated infections of corona do tend to be milder. Not sure of the scientific ins and outs but that’s my opinion.

Of course you will have community spread, and staff members more at risk so that’s where the problem lies. For them personally though. It is no bad thing.

Of the four proven cases of reinfection where the patients had symptoms on the first infection, one was worse but didn't require hospitalisation and one was worse and did require hospitalisation. Now it's a very small sample size but we really can't use it to back up the assertion that reinfections tend to be milder with covid.

@Michaelbaubles

Just checked. Actually on the first day of lockdown in late March, there were 149 deaths recorded for the one day.

@Trackandtrace

A 18yr old dies yesterday amongst others under 30, umder 40 yr olds. There has been a big increase of primary aged children requiring hospital care due to covid in the last week. More people died of covid in last 7 days than in the 7 days proceeding march lockdown so no i dont find increasing positives in any age group reasuring

But I'm sure they all had preexisting conditions and are therefore sub human and don't really count.

Immunity isn't guaranteed so heard immunity also isn't.

What about the staff at Universities? What about the people they come into contact with in shops etc when they are asymptomatic? What about their parents and those who are caring for others who won't be OK? Long term complications that may arise as a result of this virus?

Basically. No it's not good thing that a virus is ripping through universities.

No. It is a very bad thing that lots of people are catching it. For all the reasons mentioned above, we should all be trying to avoid catching it.

No, I don't think it's good. It's wreaking havoc in schools. Children and teachers are off in masses by me with negative impact on health and education and future livelihoods.

Also, can't you catch it again anyway?
What are the long term impacts on the body? Nobody knows!

[quote Marcellemouse]@Trackandtrace
Not wanting to minimise this but the 18 year old had underlying health conditions (all recent deaths have). Scaremongering is not helpful.
Where have you heard about primary school children hospital admissions?[/quote]
That is literally you minimising it.

Mind you, I guess at least it will clear out some of the weaker members of society? All to the good then!

@MrsxRocky

40 people have died this week from covid. Right before lock down we were having a few hundred deaths a day wtf you on about lol.

24 people died from covid on the 22nd of March.

I think it's brilliant op. Everyone knows that young people have no contact with anyone other than healthy young people and live in self contained units on mountains miles from anyone, because society isn't interconnected and therefore when dealing with an infectious disease you don't need to think about anyone other than yourself.

@MrsxRocky

40 people have died this week from covid. Right before lock down we were having a few hundred deaths a day wtf you on about lol.

40 was yesterday’s daily death figure not weekly.

The day of lockdown the 7-day rolling average daily death was 38 a day.

Please don’t spread lies.

It's neither a good nor a bad thing. It's just what happens with viruses. The idea that it can be prevented indefinitely is utter madness and eventually people will have to let go of it. In the meantime we all have to play this stupid 'staying safe' game that is killing other people, but who gives a fuck eh because all the matters is covid. Everyone else who dies is just collateral damage.

And people who show such massive concern about 'the vulnerable' are total fucking hypocrites who don't give a shiny shit about being vulnerable to the effects of lockdowns and restrictions. Holier than thou fucking idiots the lot of them.

@NekoShiro

Covid, even mild and asymptomatic cases, cause things like blood clotting and damage to the heart and lungs, someone who caught covid at 12 could face having a stroke from a blood clot travelling to the brain at 16, or a heart attack in their 20s, perfectly healthy adults are becoming chronic illness suffers due to having caught this virus, catching covid could cut 10-20 years off of people's lives, we just don't know what the long term effects are so I don't understand why people are so happy to let themselves and their family catch it.

You have absolutely no evidence of this considering it has been around less than a year.

@MrsxRocky

40 people have died this week from covid. Right before lock down we were having a few hundred deaths a day wtf you on about lol.

75 deaths on the day of lockdown, with a seven day average of 42 @MrsxRocky

40 yesterday, with a seven day average of 28.

Lol.

Why are people still talking about the ludicrous and impossible "herd immunity"

@TheDailyCarbuncle

It's neither a good nor a bad thing. It's just what happens with viruses. The idea that it can be prevented indefinitely is utter madness and eventually people will have to let go of it. In the meantime we all have to play this stupid 'staying safe' game that is killing other people, but who gives a fuck eh because all the matters is covid. Everyone else who dies is just collateral damage.

And people who show such massive concern about 'the vulnerable' are total fucking hypocrites who don't give a shiny shit about being vulnerable to the effects of lockdowns and restrictions. Holier than thou fucking idiots the lot of them.

Actually I do care about them that’s why I’d rather see the right measures enforced early to keep this virus under control and avoid another strict lockdown. It’s possible to be pro controlling virus and anti lockdown.

It’s seems to have worked in Sweden.

Right @Bluelinings, so I take it you're assuming that the if 'right measures' are 'enforced early' that won't have any negative effect on people or kill people?

It's a good thing for those who have mild or no symptoms and gain immunity, but

1. we still aren't sure what kind of immunity you get after Covid 19
2. some young people have been very ill, and even if they haven't died, have been left with symptoms that last months. Because they don't show up in the death statistics, a lot of people aren't aware that they exist.
3. young people don't exist in their own bubble. They have parents, grandparents, friends and siblings who are vulnerable etc.

If you ignore the death toll.

How many times does it have to be said, we are not SWEDEN! Sweden has a population of 10 million, London, our capital has a population of 8 million, the two are not comparable. Sick of it.

@hm246

Unfortunately Sweden has actually had quite high death rates as compared with their Scandanavian neighbors. Stockholm is now considering a local lockdown based on rising infection numbers.